Yes, the Java editor uses the JDK 14 javac if it runs on that JDK — even if
the build of a particular project uses JDK 8 or anything else.

Gj

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 18:25, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just my 2 cents... I am all for NB having great first-class support for
> development of projects that use Java 8, but I don’t care if I’m forced to
> run NB itself with JDK-14.
> I realize that some have projects  based on the NB platform that they want
> to run on Java 8. I think if you are in that situation, you have to decide
> to keep with an older version of the NB platform because we can’t hold the
> platform back to Java 8 compatibility forever.
>
> That being said, I would like to be able to change the default JDK for
> projects so it is a different JDK than what NB is running on. Having to go
> through most of my projects and explicitly flip them to use JDK 8 is a
> minor pain, and it also makes sharing the project with a team a little more
> awkward as well. They need additional configuration in NB so the right JDK
> can be found and we have to share NB project files that otherwise don’t
> need to go into the project’s source repo.
>
> What is unclear to me, and it seems I’m not alone, is if NB is running on
> JDK-14 without nb-javac, what do we miss when working on a project that
> builds with JDK-8? Can the NB editor not use JDK-14’s javac even tough the
> build runs with JDK-8?
>
> Scott
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > You're not going to find me arguing against good support for Java 8.
> > However, as stated above, we anticipate that nb-javac will not be ready
> in
> > time for the 12.0 release.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:46 PM Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> A question is what about JDK 8. My bold suggestion would be that we
> >> explicitly tell our users that they can’t use our Java Editor if they’re
> >> running NetBeans on JDK 8.
> >>
> >> I think it's too early to drop first-class support for Java 8, for the
> >> same reasons people listed in the earlier "Pull the plug from Java 8 in
> >> 12.1?" thread.
> >>
> >> Good support for Java 8 is a feature, and an important one for an IDE
> that
> >> is primarily associated with the Java ecosystem.
> >>
> >> Eirik
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:47 AM
> >> To: dev <dev@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> Subject: nb-javac and the upcoming 12.0
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> We’re getting close to the 12.0 release and nb-javac won’t be available
> at
> >> the time of release. What nb-javac provides is detailed elsewhere but in
> >> summary it is a fork of the  javac finetuned to the Java Editor in
> >> NetBeans. It can’t be donated to Apache NetBeans because it is a javac
> fork
> >> and hence GPL licensed, so Oracle does not want to donate it and Apache
> >> projects can’t be released with it.
> >>
> >> Ultimately, we’d like to drop the need for nb-javac completely. That
> will
> >> simplify things a lot. Plus, that is increasingly possible because from
> JDK
> >> 9 onwards we’re able to use the javac from the JDK that NetBeans runs on
> >> for the same purposes as nb-javac.
> >>
> >> And we’ve (especially Jan Lahoda) been enhancing Apache NetBeans over
> the
> >> past releases to enable the vanilla javac from the JDK on which NetBeans
> >> runs to be used increasingly better. And ultimately, of course, this
> should
> >> not be based on the JDK on which NetBeans runs, but on the JDK used by a
> >> particular project.
> >>
> >> Anyway, there have been one or two pull requests around the above, such
> as
> >> this one:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2108
> >>
> >> A question is what about JDK 8. My bold suggestion would be that we
> >> explicitly tell our users that they can’t use our Java Editor if they’re
> >> running NetBeans on JDK 8. I’m not saying that we should drop support
> for
> >> JDK 8. I’m saying we should show a message that the user should switch
> to
> >> the latest supported JDK for running NetBeans itself on (which of course
> >> does not mean that a project can’t use any earlier JDK).
> >>
> >> Anyway, comments and thoughts welcome.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
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