Hi, Thanks for the pointer to the source. I didn't realise it would be shell scripts, in which case I can hopefully help; I thought it might have been Objective-c, Swift, etc. which may have made things a bit more difficult.
Cheers On Thu, 24 Mar 2022, 19:12 John Mc, <mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > You hit the nail right on the head there > *"We're happy to take your contribution to the installer to add support for > sdkman"* > > I don't use sdkman to manage JVMs on my mac, and I'd have no intention of > installing, so I'd be willing to help point someone in the right > direction[1], and be willing to test the PR to help ensure it doesn't break > the installer for non sdkman users, but if users want this, they'd need to > be willing to help contribute contribute a PR in my opinion... > > [1]: > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/search?q=%2Fusr%2Flibexec%2Fjava_home > > Regards > > John > > > > On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 at 18:23, Alex Lewis <alex.lewis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Just to offer an opinion of an average netbeans user regarding Netbeans > and > > sdkman... As of Netbeans 12.1, sdkman is explicitly supported for > detecting > > available JVMs. In my opinion it is an odd inconsistency for the main > > application to support sdkman but not the installer. Besides that and as > > far as I know, sdkman is a widely used tool for managing Java versions on > > macos, even with its avoidance of java_home. In which case, not > supporting > > it in the installer impacts some amount of a large user base. By > > not supporting sdkman in the installer it means an additional > complication > > at the very first step in using Netbeans and that to me feels > unfortunate. > > If sdkman was an esoteric tool used by a small minority then I could > > understand any reluctance to put in the effort but, I have the impression > > that sdkman's user base would be large enough to warrant the effort. I > > obviously can't quantify that and I may be totally wrong about > > its popularity, if I am then I apologise. I just think that if it was > > important enough to include in the main application, doesn't that make it > > important enough to include support in the installer? > > > > The blame may be on sdkman but, as a user I have not yet suffered because > > of it, it's only when I try to install Netbeans that I run into an issue. > > If that's true for a significant volume of other users then I suspect > > people will believe the blame lies with Netbeans, regardless of what > might > > be the truth. > > > > I'm happy to install a java version outside of sdkman in order to install > > Netbeans. I can even remove it after Netbeans is installed, which again > > points to only the installer needing Java to be in > > /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines. For others it might be enough for them > > to just give up on Netbeans and not bother, which would be a shame for > > Netbeans to lose (potential) users that way. > > > > I realise the answer may be "We're happy to take your contribution to the > > installer to add support for sdkman", and I understand why that is the > > case. I will certainly take a look at the installer to see if there's > even > > a chance I could contribute something even though native macos > development > > is not my forte but, I hope that sdkman support could be considered > outside > > of what I may or may not be able to contribute. > > > > I'm a very happy user of Netbeans and it's clear to see Netbeans get > better > > each and every version. I'd like to say a huge thank you to the team for > > the great work. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 20:49, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > JDKs installed by SDKMAN don’t work with /usr/libexec/java_home. > That’s > > > why I believe SDKMAN should not be used for Java on macOS, it doesn’t > > > integrate properly. (I brought this up to SDKMAN team and they don’t > want > > > to write any files outside of their controlled space. I get it, but > the > > > user suffers as a result.) > > > > > > You might be able to work around it by sym-linking the SDKMAN installed > > > JDK into the correct location at /Libraries/Java/JavaVirtualMachines - > > but > > > if you have to manage it yourself, what is SDKMAN doing for you? > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 2022, at 1:15 PM, John Mc <mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 (binding) > > > > > > > > Vote Closed, I will tally up the votes later and move the artefacts > > over. > > > > > > > > @Djamel TORCHE <djamel.tor...@gmail.com> Sorry just seeing this > now. > > > What > > > > output do you get when you run this in your terminal > > > "/usr/libexec/java_home" > > > > That's how the installer verifies Java exists. > > > > > > > > Maybe for NB14 I might do an RC for the macOS installer to help > verify > > no > > > > late issues in future. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > >> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 14:12, Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> +1 (binding) > > > >> > > > >> Checksum and signature checked. > > > >> Installed and ran successfully. > > > >> Checked module versions match git hash. > > > >> > > > >> JDK 17 Temurin x86_64 running on M1 macOS 12.2.1 > > > >> > > > >> Thanks John!!! > > > >> > > > >> Best wishes, > > > >> > > > >> Neil > > > >> > > > >>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 at 10:11, John Mc <mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> This has been a lot longer than I wanted as I got caught up with > > work, > > > >> but > > > >>> here is the updated macOS installer for Apache NetBeans 13. > > > >>> > > > >>> Primary voting artefact : > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/13/Apache-NetBeans-13-bin-macosx.dmg > > > >>> > > > >>> SHA512 checksum : > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/13/Apache-NetBeans-13-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > 68cd93b697b8fa02013d4ab69f773a93c3c42f92498578470af6d808179d292649b85bdb946a9bc75d9cc94aba3d4c8e0d0a3eb3fee565ab390810ad7b609b49 > > > >>> Apache-NetBeans-13-bin-macosx.dmg > > > >>> > > > >>> KEYS file : > > > >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS > > > >>> > > > >>> PGP signature file : > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/13/Apache-NetBeans-13-bin-macosx.dmg.asc > > > >>> > > > >>> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job: > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release130/20/ > > > >>> > > > >>> NOTE: The distpreparation artefact from this Jenkins job was > replaced > > > >> with: > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/13/distpreparation.zip > > > >>> The changes can be compared against the PR: > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3699 > > > >>> > > > >>> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, > and > > > >>> -1 as usual. Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an > Apache > > > >>> NetBeans PMC member. > > > >>> > > > >>> This vote is dependent on the main Apache NetBeans 13 release vote > > > >> passing. > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards > > > >>> > > > >>> John > > > >> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > >> > > > >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
