One strand that comes through in this discussion is that those that want to continue JDK 8 should also be the owners of it.
It is clear that a level of exhaustion is being reached by the majority of the core contributors of this project. A bigger risk than us losing the ability to run projects dependent on JDK 8 is losing the majority of the community of collaborators who together have been keeping us alive in Apache. Gj On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 16:13, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote: > As far as basing decisions on actual data goes, I agree completely. Do we > have any data on how many users would be affected by dropping JDK 8 support > in future NetBeans versions? I’m talking real numbers here, not a few > people stating, “I would like it to run on Java 8”. > > That is: > - How many users are on a platform that can’t run Java 11 (either due to > technical issues or company policies)? > - How many users NEED to move to a future NB platform? (The answer must be > zero, as they don’t even know what the future NB platform offers at the > moment.) > > Those are the users that should be counted, and I haven’t seen any data on > how big that set of users is relative to the entire NB user base. Those > proposing continued Java 8 support need to supply this data to validate > their argument. > > My gut instinct is that there are very few users that fit that criteria, > and those that do could be supported by the few developers that have > volunteered to keep Java 8 working. > > Mind you, I also think that if there is data suggesting that this subset > of users is significant, then it also suggests that they might have the > resources to support a Java 8 fork and allow the mainstream NB to not be > anchored in the past. IMO dropping Java 8 support is a few years overdue > already. > > I do laugh at the idea of Window XP support though. Windows XP was EOL 9 > years ago. It is absurd to suggest continued support for it in NB. Have we > learned nothing from the ridiculous limitations imposed by DOS that are > still present in Windows 11? I’ve seen a few Java projects fail to build > because of those limitations. That’s what clinging to backwards > compatibility for too long gets you. > > > Regards, > > Scott > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >