Well, it's clear Gluon is involved, for example.

Gj

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@protonmail.ch>
wrote:

> >> "Oracle has begun conversations with interested parties in the Java
> >> ecosystem on the stewardship of JavaFX, Swing and AWT beyond the above
> >> referenced timeframes."
>
> > Does anyone know Who? How? Terms? Or, how can we get involved?
>
> Yes, I sure hope Apache is involved.
>
> --emi
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
> On 10 March 2018 7:50 AM, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 9, 2018 18:16, "Neil C Smith" neilcsm...@apache.org wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 at 22:31 Matthias Bläsingmblaes...@doppel-helix.eu
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Oracle is still committed to Swing and AWT to at least 2026. There is
> > >
> > > no mention of removing it.
> > >
> > > So we should keep calm.
> >
> > Calm is good :-)
> >
> > Still, that particular date is just talking about the end of commercial
> >
> > support for Java SE 11 isn't it? Unless I missed something, there isn't
> >
> > anything about what happens in Java SE 12, which is only ~12 months away.
> >
> > Exactly, and my original email didn't suggest freaking out. It did
> suggest
> >
> > we need to be aware of what this means, and decide how to make sure we
> can
> >
> > support "the" core dependency besides Java at this point. Does it mean
> >
> > other tech, or does it mean getting more involved?
> >
> > At a minimum the messaging for FX is that it didn't take off, and it has
> a
> >
> > niche following, and mobile first and web technology has offset its
> >
> > original goals.
> >
> > Given that, other than some developer tools and "niche" applications, who
> >
> > is using Swing? It's a rhetorical question.
> >
> > Many today, I suppose most, think apps should be mobile or web, and
> unless
> >
> > in the various markets, that have value for applications which aren't web
> >
> > applications, but not as consumer visible, would think such things are
> >
> > niche, even though that's a pretty big niche, and apparently an oxymoron,
> >
> > if one takes the different technologies used to build installed desktop
> >
> > apps including Qt, .Net, Electron (Slack or VS Code anyone), Natives,
> >
> > Eclipse, others, and of course Swing (NB RCP) and Java FX along with
> their
> >
> > domains/applicable use cases.
> >
> > Maybe nothing near term to worry about, but I think without other
> >
> > involvement, AWT & Swing are being looked at for something. This is also
> in
> >
> > that document:
> >
> > "Oracle has begun conversations with interested parties in the Java
> >
> > ecosystem on the stewardship of JavaFX, Swing and AWT beyond the above
> >
> > referenced timeframes."
> >
> > Does anyone know Who? How? Terms? Or, how can we get involved?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Wade
>
>
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