> I believe that NBI has legs, at least as a way for NB Platform applications to fill the gap left by the demise of Java Web Start. As I have said before, I don't understand well how the NBI system works (yet - I am trying), but I can't see any good reason why it should be abandoned.
I suspect very few people know how NBI works, it was always a bit magic. If we can’t support it it might be simpler in time to just abandon it. I also have a Platform project where the customer went the InnoSetup route. I guess it’s a pain not to have everything cross-platform but you still have to replace the launcher icon somehow and you have to sign the installer (both of which I’ve always done on windows although in theory doable anywhere) On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 12:17, Mark Phipps <mark.phi...@sucfin.com> wrote: > Hi Neil, > > It is NBI for several reasons: > > 1. afaik it's the way that NetBeans IDE up to 8.2 was installed - why > can't it be used for 10.0, 11.0 ....? > 2. part of the NB code base > 3. baked into Ant - right click on an Ant-based NB Platform project and > choose "Generate installers...." > 4. baked into the nbm-maven plugin. I have invested a huge amount of > time and effort working out how to tune the generation of installers > from our maven/ant build system. > 5. therefore all runs on linux, don't need Windows to generate a Windows > (or Mac) installer. > > I don't want to use yet another technology like Innosetup (good as it > may be), because I don't run any of my build pipeline on Windows. I > don't want to learn Pascal scripting either. > > I believe that NBI has legs, at least as a way for NB Platform > applications to fill the gap left by the demise of Java Web Start. As I > have said before, I don't understand well how the NBI system works (yet > - I am trying), but I can't see any good reason why it should be abandoned. > > Regards > Mark > > On 05/02/2019 08:38, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, 16:15 Mark Phipps <mark.phi...@sucfin.com wrote: > > > >> Whatever solutions you decide are best for installing NetBeans IDE > >> itself, application providers need a way to bundle a JRE within the > >> installer. I presume that everyone is still minded to use the NBI > >> framework to accomplish this? > >> > > Personally, not in the slightest! I made a move on Linux to .deb (soon to > > be AppImage or Snap), then on macOS to app bundle, and most recently > > InnoSetup on Windows about a year ago. Bundling is a lot easier when the > > installation process itself doesn't require the JRE. And I've barely > > scratched the surface of InnoSetup's features but already got numerous > > things that were more difficult to achieve via NBI. > > > > A question back would actually be, for you why NBI? > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Neil > > > > www.sucdenfinancial.com > > Sucden Financial Limited, Plantation Place South, 60 Gre > <https://maps.google.com/?q=imited,+Plantation+Place+South,+60+Gre&entry=gmail&source=g>at > Tower Street, London EC3R 5AZ > Telephone +44 203 207 5000 > > Registered in England no. 1095841 > VAT registration no. GB 446 9061 33 > > Authorised and Regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and > entered in the FCA register under no. 114239 > > This email, including any files transmitted with it, is confidential and > may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended > recipient. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify > postmas...@sucfin.com immediately and delete it from your computer system. > > We believe, but do not warrant, that this email and its attachments are > virus-free, but you should check. > > Sucden Financial Limited may monitor traffic data of both business and > personal emails. By replying to this email, you consent to Sucden Financial > 's monitoring > the content of any emails you send to or receive from Sucden Financial . > Sucden Financial is not liable for any opinions expressed by the sender > where this is a > non-business email. > > The contents of this e-mail do not constitute advice and should not be > regarded as a recommendation to buy, sell or otherwise deal with any > particular investment. > Where any trade ideas are made by an employee of Sucden Financial in an > electronic communication, these are made incidentally to your dealing > relationship with > us and are provided solely to enable you to make your own investment > decisions and do not amount to advice. Please note that the employee may > have had many, varied > trade ideas over the past 12 months, including contrary ideas. Any trade > ideas are solely based on the employee’s market knowledge and experience > and may not be > tailored to your specific circumstances or investment objectives. Please > contact the employee who made the trade idea if you would like to see any > of his/her trade > ideas made in the previous 12 months for comparative purposes. Please > visit our website to view our full risk warnings and disclaimers: > www.sucdenfinancial.com. > > This message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. > -- --emi
