> My understanding is you could create a
bundler that is clear to spell out it is a bundler, and is just installing
"Apache NetBeans + AdoptOpenJDK" as an example as long as it is just a
redistribution of unchanged parts.

I haven't seen this spelled out as such, although it's been mentioned like
this on mailing list and on issues.

Apache's trademark rules are actually quite clear, but in practice things
might be different. Linux distros obviously distribute Apache stuff under
Apache trademark names and they even patch them in various way so it's not
even an Apache release that gets shown there, but a derivative work. Yet,
everything is well.

Perhaps I should just try making a bundle and publish it. See what happens
then.

> We could even then have Oracle and Amazon use that, but
certainly others like Pivotal or even an arrangement with AdoptOpenJDK to
distribute could be made.

I doubt AdoptOpenJDK would get into favouring an IDE. But I get your idea

--emi


On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 11:57 PM Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org>
wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 15:43 Emilian Bold <
>
> >
> > If Apache gets more lenient / clear on bundling I could also create a
> > 'vanilla NetBeans' package with no bits changed except the additional
> JDK.
> > Although I suspect the general idea is for Oracle or Amazon to do some
> > JDK+NetBeans bundle release and not smaller projects.
> >
>
> What does this mean necessarily? My understanding is you could create a
> bundler that is clear to spell out it is a bundler, and is just installing
> "Apache NetBeans + AdoptOpenJDK" as an example as long as it is just a
> redistribution of unchanged parts.
>
> Too, it seems we could provide an installer that downloads the JDK for the
> end user, but that also can create and output a bundled installer for that
> end user; they would be building and distributing it. They could then place
> that on any server they wish, that isn't Apache's, and share that; even use
> it to create their Enterprise installers. We could even have that allow all
> headless creation to allow it to work in scripted setups such as something
> using Ansible. We could even then have Oracle and Amazon use that, but
> certainly others like Pivotal or even an arrangement with AdoptOpenJDK to
> distribute could be made.
>
> Thanks
>
> Wade
>

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