I have agreed that at this point a release is important. My goal was try to
squeeze in a much goodness as possible into the release, but the important
bug fixes should come first. Getting 1.x into a state where the release
notes don't say that it is geared toward developers and testers is really
huge.

I think Nifi is a great community otherwise I would participate in the
mailing list, create Jira tickets and pull requests. I am only trying to
strengthen the great thing that is going on here. We can always do better.
I was not trying to put down this community only to participate and make it
better. I think this conversation is an indication of how great this
community is.

Maybe I am being sensitive about this issue and trying to strengthen the
nifi community even more, after coming from a conference where it was
reported there was lots of excitement at first and now the participation in
the community has really died down and they are struggling. I don't want to
see that happen here.

Cheers,

Edgardo




On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Andre <andre-li...@fucs.org> wrote:

> Edgardo,
>
> Thank you for your feedback. We hear your comments and as a committer I can
> share we are constantly looking to improve the PR process, having already
> taken many of the steps you suggest.
>
> However, it is important to notice that the number of PRs should not be
> seen as a metric of engagement by the development community: Most of us
> will submit PRs so that our work can be carefully reviewed by our peers and
> some of us will use JIRA patches to provide contributions.
>
> Having said that, it is true that some PRs may sit idle for a long time and
> we are working to improve this pipeline.
>
> It was therefore no coincidence that I  browsed most of the PRs performing
> a triage of items that have been superseded or diverged from the current
> code base.
>
> In fact, less than a month ago the dev team closed a number of stalled and
> superseded PRs (commit cc5e827aa1dfe2f376e9836380ba63c15269eea8).
>
> Despite all the above, I think Joe has a point. The master contain a series
> of important bug fixes and suspect the community would benefit from a
> release sooner rather than later.
>
> Once again, thank you for your feedback and contribution. It is good to
> have you here.
>
> Andre
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Edgardo Vega <edgardo.v...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Joe - You are correct I was mentioning the PRs that are currently open.
> >
> > Regardless of how it happens reducing the count of open PRs I believe to
> be
> > extremely important. Maybe I was hoping that the release could be a
> forcing
> > function to make that happen. I believe that developers are more willing
> to
> > contribute when they see that their PRs will actually be able accepted
> and
> > merged into the code base. Having a low number of open PRs in progress
> is a
> > great indication that the main nifi developers are fully engaged with the
> > community.
> >
> > There are a few PRs that don't have any comments from committers at all.
> I
> > found one from August in that state. If that was my PR I don't think I
> > would be so willing to put another one in anytime soon. I do get that
> > sometime PRs get stalled by the originator, if so maybe a rule about
> > closing them after a certain amount of time or being taken over by a core
> > contributor if they think it worthwhile.
> >
> > I would like to shoutout to James Wing on my last PR he was quick to
> > review, provided great comments, testing, and even some additional code.
> It
> > was a great PR experience.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Edgardo
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Joe Percivall <joeperciv...@yahoo.com.
> > invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Joe, I think you misread. Edgardo is referring to the Pull Requests
> that
> > > are currently open, not the tickets assigned to the 1.1.0 version.
> > >
> > > I think these goals (releasing 1.1.0 and cutting down the PR count)
> > should
> > > be two different efforts. Doing a thorough job reviewing takes a
> > > significant amount of time from both the reviewer and contributor. In
> > order
> > > to cut it down significantly would take much longer than a couple days.
> > >
> > > Also there has already been a lot of great new features and bug fixes
> > > contributed to the 1.X line and I don't think it's worth holding up a
> > 1.1.0
> > > release for tickets not assigned to this fix version. As an added bonus
> > > though, I think many of the tickets tagged as 1.1.0 have PRs already
> open
> > > so closing those will make a large dent in the PR count.
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > - - - - - -
> > > Joseph Percivall
> > > linkedin.com/in/Percivall
> > > e: joeperciv...@yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thursday, October 13, 2016 3:58 PM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There are less than 30 right now.  Many of the roughly 90+ JIRAs
> > > opened on 1.1.0 were easily dispositioned to 1.2.0 or closed or just
> > > had fix versions removed.
> > >
> > > We will need to have a push over the next bunch of days to deal with
> > > reviewing/merging/moving the remaining items.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Edgardo Vega <edgardo.v...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Joe,
> > > >
> > > > There are 75 PRs currently open. Why not make a push over the next
> > bunch
> > > of
> > > > days to get them closed and then cut the release after that.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Edgardo
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Team,
> > > >>
> > > >> There have been a ton of bugs fixed a few nice features.  I would
> like
> > > >> to move to get Apache NiFi 1.1.0 release going pretty much based on
> > > >> where we are now and plan to move most tickets to a new Apache NiFi
> > > >> 1.2.0 version.  We can try to get back on our roughly 6-8 week
> release
> > > >> schedule and shoot for a mid to late Nov release for NiFi 1.2.0 this
> > > >> way as well. Please advise if anyone has any other views on this. In
> > > >> the mean time I'll get the wheels in motion so you'll be seeing a
> lot
> > > >> of JIRA/issue updates to move version around.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >> Joe
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Tony Kurc <trk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> > Sounds good Joe. I have no issue to you doing the rm'ing for it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Oct 13, 2016 8:19 AM, "Joe Witt" <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Team,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> There are a lot of great fixes and improvements on the master
> line
> > > now
> > > >> >> and we're at a good time window to start pushing for a release.
> > > There
> > > >> >> are, however, about 90+ JIRAs assigned to 1.1.0 which are open.
> > I'm
> > > >> >> going to go through them and remove fix versions where
> appropriate.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I'm happy to take on RM task for this release though if someone
> > else
> > > >> >> would like to take that on please advise.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks
> > > >> >> Joe
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Edgardo
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Edgardo
> >
>



-- 
Cheers,

Edgardo

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