I have send "call" for requirements for user group too.
I will upgrade VAT page with questions we know
Marek Mosiewicz
http://www.jotel.com.pl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <dev@ofbiz.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: VAT - tax authority
This is an interesting thread.
I'd suggest, before we start to discuss how to change the data model, to
go one step back and properly define all the requirements relevant for
VAT tax calculation. I am sure others will be interested in adding their
comments.
As soon as we have defined a list of requirements, we can go on with data
model changes.
Here is an example for some requirements:
* the application of a VAT tax rate may depend on the billing address,
but also on the type of product and on the from and to parties (add
details here...)
* periodically (usually on a monthly bases) the company have to provide a
VAT Tax report: for each Tax Authority, the total VAT tax collected and
VAT Tax paid by the company is shown (the difference between collected
and paid is what is due to the tax authority; if the difference is
negative, the amount will be usually used in the next VAT Tax report
* some countries may require that, prices for B2C sales are shown VAT
included (from Jacques Le Roux)
* etc... etc...
What do you think?
Jacopo
PS: useful resources:
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/OFBiz%27s+Tax+Authority+Data+Model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/VAT
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo#FAQ-Tips-Tricks-Cookbook-HowTo-PricesWithVAT
On Jul 3, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote:
So, I'd suggest to ignore that flag for now; IMO the best way to
distinguish vat taxes from sales taxes is thru the is thru the
TaxAuthorityRateType: we should add a new entry there for "VAT taxes"
Jacopo
I do not know. In TaxAuthorittyRateType TaxAuthGeoId is for DESTINATION
(as I understand - becouse tax sales depends on destination addres)
But we need to know what type of taxman is for our(SOURCE) company. In
case our company
is VAT taxman we should to behave little differently than if our taxman
is SALES TAX.
Maybe it is just enought to add fromTaxAuthGeoId (replacing
productStoreId-
it is not good in VAT to use productStoreId for purchase invoices as it
can be
general invoice where there is no store - eg invoice for fixed asset)
Marek
