As I mentioned in another reply, the permission expressions could replace 
scripts. I agree there would probably be little use for them in the UI.

-Adrian


--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Andrew Zeneski <andrew.zene...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:

> From: Andrew Zeneski <andrew.zene...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r770084 - in /ofbiz/trunk/framework/example: ./ 
> config/ data/ entitydef/ security/ servicedef/ widget/example/
> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 7:31 PM
> I'm trying to come up with a use case where this sort of
> logic would be applicable, but I just cannot think of any. I
> can think of cases where we will conditionally want to check
> a single permission but OR/AND permissions together for a UI
> element?
> 
> When displaying a list of items, I might add a link to an
> update form, in which I would only show the link if update
> permission available. Same with delete, but I wouldn't
> check these in the same place, rather with each link.
> 
> Also, I might use <display/> for read only users
> instead of text boxes (I really like Jacopo's use-when
> idea). But when would I really ever want to check them in an
> AND/OR fashion?
> 
> Keeping in mind now, that the permission system handles
> granularity, as long as we are intelligent when defining
> permissions I believe a single permissions should be able to
> handle most cases. With the exception of UIs where we would
> want to display different things based on a different base
> permission, even then a single call using the new
> findMatchingPermissions() would totally do the trick.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On Apr 30, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> 
> > I like that idea. Less chance that an unintended
> conversion would occur.
> > 
> > -Adrian
> > 
> > Scott Gray wrote:
> >> FYI and I only realized this the other day but
> beanshell supports exactly this type of feature where you
> can specify things @and, @or and etc. for use in xml files
> http://www.beanshell.org/manual/syntax.html#Document_Friendly_Entities
> >> I wonder if we do this it might be worth following
> the same convention.
> >> Regards
> >> Scott
> >> HotWax Media
> >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> <http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/>
> >> On 1/05/2009, at 5:34 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> >>> Adrian,
> >>> 
> >>> this is really interesting.
> >>> However I think it is time to start thinking
> to define our own xml friendly keywords for && and
> || operators; I would like to express that statement with
> something like this:
> >>> 
> >>> <set field="hasPermission"
> value="${(hasPermission['update:context1'] OR
> hasPermission['update:context2']) AND
> hasPermission['update:context3']}"
> type="Boolean"/>
> >>> 
> >>> Jacopo
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Adrian Crum
> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> <set field="hasPermission"
> value="${(hasPermission['update:context1'] ||
> hasPermission['update:context2']) &amp;&amp;
> hasPermission['update:context3']}"
> type="Boolean"/>
> >>>> 
> >>>> or something like that. I'm still
> working out the details.
> >>>> 
> >>>> -Adrian
> >>>> 
> >>>> Andrew Zeneski wrote:
> >>>>> That sounds cool. I'm not sure
> what that would really look like, but nevertheless sounds
> really cool! :) If you need anything from me let me know...
> >>>>> Andrew
> >>>>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Adrian
> Crum wrote:
> >>>>>> Andrew Zeneski wrote:
> >>>>>>> I'd be happy to discuss
> additional changes as well (which aren't yet documented)
> like adding support to check multiple permissions at once,
> returning a Map of results from that permission check. So,
> if you or anyone else has a wish list for security, let me
> know so I can get it all incorporated at the same time.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Btw, I'm working on adding an
> extension to the UEL that will allow permission expressions.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> -Adrian
> >>>


      

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