Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

[Tim Ruppert]

Agreed - thanks Adrian - and please everyone keep the comments coming - it will make it better for all of us in the end.

As

Cheers,
Ruppert

On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

Hans,





-Adrian

I share some of the frustration Tim expressed, but at the same time I really appreciate the valuable contributions your company has made to the project. All I would ask is that you spend a little more time reviewing code and testing it before committing it. --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Hans Bakker <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com> wrote:

From: Hans Bakker <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
Subject: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:14 PM
Tim,

Let me first say that i appreciate the things you and your
people have
done to OFbiz but is that a reason to write such a flame
message? Yes i
know you contributed a lot similar to what we (I and my
people) have
done.

However it sure looks like we have a different focus
supporting OFBiz, I
am most interested filling the functional gaps that exist
in the system,
you seem to have most interest in improving existing
functions and
presentation and html/css.

Doesn't that fit together well?

Most (all?) of the comments of you and your people i have
implemented.

So lets stop this flame, i can already tell you that if you
find a
wrongly named variable or a few styles in some ftl code,
you sure can
mention them to me and we will try to correct it and we are
not offended
if you correct it yourself....

lets work together,

regards,
Hans



On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 08:43 -0600, Tim Ruppert wrote:

Agreed, the SFA system definitely needs a lot of love

and hopefully

with additional discussion going on in the community

we can get some

more traction on that.  At this point, we are

using it internally, but

haven't had enough time to spend on enhancing this

application to the

fullest.

First of all, company based attacks will not be

tolerated my friend -

please stop it, it makes you look bad and continues to

erode faith.

This is me coming after you for your carelessness, has

nothing to do

with my company, so feel free to remember that before

you slop this up

here.  But if you'd like to talk about

contributions and what _we've_

been doing, here you go.

Instead of working on SFA, which btw hasn't seemed to

be a have a huge

push from the community, we've been spending our time

and money

working on rebranding the applications, enhancing the

accounting

application, cleaning up all of the amazingly outdated

HTML in the

system, adding additional tests to enhance stability,

adding and

cleaning up lots of integrations, and adding features

to the eCommerce

application where they were lacking.  Would you

like me to list all of

those and the commit messages to go along with them or

can we agree

that they would dwarf the garbage you've thrown out

below?

The other thing we spend a lot of time on is cleaning

up your code and

ensuring that your flippant commits don't hurt the

system. This slight

of hand to look at the grossly neglected SFA system is

a cute

distraction, but remember the point - you are not

following the best

practices laid down by the community - not our company

- and if you

continue you to - I can't imagine why you'd be able to

be given the

power to keep doing it.

Do your work, help the community, follow the

guidelines, or stop

wasting everyone's time.

Cheers,
Ruppert

On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

Can we expect any results on this?

OBIZ-1644 Screens to manage Calendar in SFA

webapp

Anil K Patel 14/Feb/08

OFBIZ-1645 Screens to manage Forecast in SFA

webapp

Anil K Patel 15/Feb/08

OFBIZ-2364 Competitors & Partners - Sales

Force Automation component

Vikas Mayur 27/Apr/09

OFBIZ-2363 Improvements in Sales Force Automation

component

Vikas Mayur 27/Apr/09

OFBIZ-2363 Improvements in "Contact" Screens
Ashish Vijaywargiya 27/Apr/09

OFBIZ-2363 Improvements in "Lead" Screens
Ashish Vijaywargiya 27/Apr/09

OFBIZ-2427 Cases - Sales Force Automation

component

Ashish Vijaywargiya 06/May/09

Some systems only got successful having CRM/SFA

as one of the major

components......

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