Hi Pierre,

your involvement is more than welcome, remind me when i am a bit
slow :-)

Regards,
Hans


On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 10:36 +0100, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have looked mainly into the SFA and Project Mgt components over the last
> few months and am more than willing to help these components (for starters)
> forward. Even in a greater role than just providing feedback.
> 
> Regards, Pierre.
> 
> 2009/12/7 Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> 
> > Thi is all great,
> >
> > Put please ladies/gents don't get out of subject.
> > I still think the 1st step is to fix the bugs we know exist, are documented
> > in Jira and even ready to be fixed with patches for some.
> >
> >
> > Jacques
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> >
> >
> > From: "Anil Patel" <anil.pa...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> >
> >  We do see some great Ideas around what is needed. There was lot of
> >> conversation on this topic in ApacheCon 2008 and then in 2009 (based on
> >> messages on list).
> >>
> >> You will be surprised there is lot done. We have seen lot of activity in
> >> documenting business processes and end user documentation.
> >>
> >> More recently David proposed a simple system derived from Ofbiz that will
> >> address needs of small business.
> >>
> >> We have lot more Ofbiz technical contributors then Business process
> >> knowledge contributors. It will be really nice if people in this part of
> >> community will step up. It will be nice if business users or power business
> >> users who are technical developers as well started to take part of
> >> requirement documents and add to UBPL or EZBIZ effort.
> >>
> >> If users can document their business processes needs, give some wireframe
> >> help then technical developers will be able to help map them to OOTB
> >> features (Gap Analysis).
> >>
> >> Unless we get real business requirements documents coming from user
> >> community there is no way for us to fulfill them.
> >>
> >> I hope you understand I am not asking anybody to break NDA or whatever.
> >>
> >> Thanks and Regards
> >> Anil Patel
> >> HotWax Media Inc
> >> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"
> >>
> >> On Dec 6, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Cimballi wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi devs,
> >>>
> >>> Here my opinion about the subject.
> >>> To make things clear, it makes about 3-4 month I am working with
> >>> OFBiz, using it to implement a project.
> >>>
> >>> I thing one way to have more people involved in the project is to
> >>> lower the "difficulty level" required to understand OFBiz.
> >>>
> >>> And for this there are several possbilities, and I will focus on two :
> >>> - modularize the project
> >>> - more functional documentation inside the source files
> >>>
> >>> Modularize the project
> >>>
> >>> I've seen this subject has already been discussed and I think it can
> >>> profit to the project in several points :
> >>> - more modules means less code in each module, which means modules are
> >>> eaiser to understand, which means more developer may be interesting to
> >>> participate to its development, test, ... There is at least one
> >>> obvious module which could be very interesting to externalize, it's
> >>> the entity engine. I don't know so much OFBiz architecture but I think
> >>> it should be possible to externalize this module and a lot of projects
> >>> totally different of OFBiz could be interesting in it, and so
> >>> potentially a lot more developers to maintain and enhance it.
> >>> - on another side, more modules would also make it easier to
> >>> distribute the issues, each developer specialized on a specific
> >>> module. Maybe it's already the case...
> >>>
> >>> More functional documentation inside the source files
> >>>
> >>> Here my feeling is that with OFBiz, you really requires both technical
> >>> and functional knowledge to understand how the project work. Some part
> >>> like the entity engine are purely technical, but the order module for
> >>> example is really functional, I mean, you need to know a lot about how
> >>> ordering works in a company to be able to use the module and even more
> >>> to custommize or propose enhancements to it. So, with more
> >>> documentation in the source files, like the XML entity files, and then
> >>> in the source code for example explaining what a method concretly does
> >>> may help a lot to understand OFBiz. It seems the link David sent about
> >>> UBML is about his.
> >>>
> >>> Here is my feeling about OFBiz as a fresh developers. I try to
> >>> participate to the project at least by providing bug reports, I still
> >>> feel for away from providing patches ! :-)
> >>>
> >>> Hope this will help you, devs, the project is already great, let's
> >>> make it more accessible !
> >>>
> >>> Cimballi
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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