Hi Tim,

 I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work

I heard this before ;o). I have asked Gavin at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2347?focusedCommentId=12788583&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12788583.
But I'm not sure it's the right side to ask.

Jacques
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From: "Tim Ruppert" <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com>
I don't think it's a good idea to put it back - we've moved it and forever there it will stay. I also don't agree that you should encourage people to not use the tinyURLs - this probably only happens because the Confluence servers were setup very differently and with different purposes. I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work. This may be something you want to check with the ASF on - they're the only ones who can qualify that last statement about the tinyURLs.

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On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Tim,

It's depend how you see it. Facts 1st:
There are still 59 old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x) scattered in the 
trunk.
There are also 18 pages in cwiki with at least one old tinylinks in.

Some persons have tried to put as much as documentation in place these last years. This in order to help the community, especially newcomers (but not only). Hoping also that it will help the community to grow. I have always thought that an API, and at large a software, (with little imagiantion you can see OFBiz as a very large API) without documentation is very less usefull or at least less efficient.

I think we begin to harvest a part of our effort, and losing a part of the intelligence put there (I mean those old tinylinks, kind of synapses) definitely annoy me.

Alternative :
1) Forget it and let them lost. Hoping (without much faith) that when people 
will get to them they will fix them, mmm...
2) Fix them by hand (have mercy ;o)
3) Let people know from now to not use tinylinks in cwiki. Export the 5 OFBiz cwiki spaces back to Contegix Confluence. Put http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence in place. Re-export them to cwiki. Not sure it will work, we may have to ask Confluence support before if ever we want to got this way. 4) Find something more clever using regexp. Maybe possible because we have still both sources and I guess there are not much different tinylinks used at all. But too tired today for elaborating that

My 2cts

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From: "Tim Ruppert" <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Does that really matter now?  How can we fix it is the only question that 
matters at this point.

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On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Hi David, Tim,

I wonder if this should not have been done *before* the migration?

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From: "David E Jones" <d...@me.com>

The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence

It looks like that is what it is supposed to be, and it doesn't appear to be a 
setting that can change per space or anything.

-David


On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Hi,

In r888559, I wrote <<I have found a way to fix old tinylinks :D http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142>>
But I wonder now it this is possible by spaces else we are trapped :/
Could you have a look David ? I guess you are the sole person with the rights 
for that in OFBiz community.
We may ask Gavin also...

Thanks

Jacques
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