There is no hurry IMO, I noticed one point though. All of them begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x. I think this could help. I wonder if
nobody crossed the same issue before and will google for a solution. But as I said no hurry, if someone needs a link simply update
it.
This makes me think that we should better, if possible, keep alive the Contegix
wiki before we definitively fix this issue.
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There is no way to specifically rewrite the URLs from docs.ofbiz.org unless we clearly understand the algorithm they use for
creating them - which we definitely can do - but it will take time that I do not have at the moment and it is very well outside of
what Contegix can do. Anyways, if someone has some rewrites that we can apply, I'm happy to get them implemented - but I do not
think anyone will have one that will actually work until they get into understanding the indexing that Confluence uses.
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On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Tim,
Gavin says also
<gmcdonald> ... or at least check how redirection is set up at ofbiz.org, the
redirects directly from ofbiz.org in some instances
point to the cwiki homepage instead of your space(s) ,this is not a tiny url or
asf confluence problem as I see it
So you think there are no ways to deal with these links by a specific rewrite
as it's done for other links?
BTW where is this done? I would like to have it a go...
Jacques
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I have to agree with Gavin - the only way to fix this is to fix the URLs.
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On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Tim, All (after all why only Tim should be concerned?),
I asked Gavin, as I expected (to be more clear here is my question)
<<Hi Gavin,
Despite all other redirections work, we have an issue with old tinylinks (begin
by docs.ofbiz.org/x).
For instance look at
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo#FAQ-Tips-Tricks-Cookbook-HowTo-Ajax:DisableBrowserCacheforModule
I found this related FAQ
http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142
David confirmed that <<The current setting for General Configuration -> Server
Base Url is:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence>>
Could you have a look at this please ?>>
Here is his answer:
<gmcdonald> erm, I think you better look at the ofbiz wiki side of things.
Having a tiny link inside asf confluence pointing to
ofbiz confluence which is set up to redirect back to asf confluence is bound to
have problems, I would say that tiny links
produced
with the ofbiz.org url should be changed
<gmcdonald> ... or at least check how redirection is set up at ofbiz.org, the
redirects directly from ofbiz.org in some instances
point to the cwiki homepage instead of your space(s) ,this is not a tiny url or
asf confluence problem as I see it
Thanks
Jacques
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Hi Tim,
I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work
I heard this before ;o). I have asked Gavin at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2347?focusedCommentId=12788583&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12788583.
But I'm not sure it's the right side to ask.
Jacques
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I don't think it's a good idea to put it back - we've moved it and forever
there it will stay. I also don't agree that you
should
encourage people to not use the tinyURLs - this probably only happens because
the Confluence servers were setup very differently
and with different purposes. I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward
because they will always work. This may be
something you want to check with the ASF on - they're the only ones who can
qualify that last statement about the tinyURLs.
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On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Tim,
It's depend how you see it. Facts 1st:
There are still 59 old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x) scattered in the
trunk.
There are also 18 pages in cwiki with at least one old tinylinks in.
Some persons have tried to put as much as documentation in place these last
years. This in order to help the community,
especially newcomers (but not only). Hoping also that it will help the community to grow. I have always thought that an API,
and
at large a software, (with little imagiantion you can see OFBiz as a very large
API) without documentation is very less usefull
or at least less efficient.
I think we begin to harvest a part of our effort, and losing a part of the
intelligence put there (I mean those old tinylinks,
kind of synapses) definitely annoy me.
Alternative :
1) Forget it and let them lost. Hoping (without much faith) that when people
will get to them they will fix them, mmm...
2) Fix them by hand (have mercy ;o)
3) Let people know from now to not use tinylinks in cwiki. Export the 5 OFBiz
cwiki spaces back to Contegix Confluence. Put
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence in place. Re-export them to cwiki. Not sure
it will work, we may have to ask Confluence
support before if ever we want to got this way.
4) Find something more clever using regexp. Maybe possible because we have
still both sources and I guess there are not much
different tinylinks used at all. But too tired today for elaborating that
My 2cts
Jacques
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Does that really matter now? How can we fix it is the only question that
matters at this point.
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On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi David, Tim,
I wonder if this should not have been done *before* the migration?
Jacques
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The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
It looks like that is what it is supposed to be, and it doesn't appear to be a
setting that can change per space or anything.
-David
On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi,
In r888559, I wrote <<I have found a way to fix old tinylinks :D
http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142>>
But I wonder now it this is possible by spaces else we are trapped :/
Could you have a look David ? I guess you are the sole person with the rights
for that in OFBiz community.
We may ask Gavin also...
Thanks
Jacques
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