We have until the end of the month - and then that goes as well ... Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > There is no hurry IMO, I noticed one point though. All of them begin by > docs.ofbiz.org/x. I think this could help. I wonder if nobody crossed the > same issue before and will google for a solution. But as I said no hurry, if > someone needs a link simply update it. > This makes me think that we should better, if possible, keep alive the > Contegix wiki before we definitively fix this issue. > > Cheers > > Jacques > () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org > > From: "Tim Ruppert" <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com> > There is no way to specifically rewrite the URLs from docs.ofbiz.org unless > we clearly understand the algorithm they use for creating them - which we > definitely can do - but it will take time that I do not have at the moment > and it is very well outside of what Contegix can do. Anyways, if someone has > some rewrites that we can apply, I'm happy to get them implemented - but I do > not think anyone will have one that will actually work until they get into > understanding the indexing that Confluence uses. > > Cheers, > Ruppert > -- > Tim Ruppert > HotWax Media > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com > > o:801.649.6594 > f:801.649.6595 > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> Gavin says also >>> <gmcdonald> ... or at least check how redirection is set up at ofbiz.org, >>> the redirects directly from ofbiz.org in some instances >>> point to the cwiki homepage instead of your space(s) ,this is not a tiny >>> url or asf confluence problem as I see it >> >> So you think there are no ways to deal with these links by a specific >> rewrite as it's done for other links? >> BTW where is this done? I would like to have it a go... >> >> Jacques >> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >> >> From: "Tim Ruppert" <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com> >> I have to agree with Gavin - the only way to fix this is to fix the URLs. >> >> Cheers, >> Ruppert >> -- >> Tim Ruppert >> HotWax Media >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >> >> o:801.649.6594 >> f:801.649.6595 >> >> On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >>> Tim, All (after all why only Tim should be concerned?), >>> >>> I asked Gavin, as I expected (to be more clear here is my question) >>> <<Hi Gavin, >>> Despite all other redirections work, we have an issue with old tinylinks >>> (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x). >>> For instance look at >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo#FAQ-Tips-Tricks-Cookbook-HowTo-Ajax:DisableBrowserCacheforModule >>> I found this related FAQ >>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142 >>> David confirmed that <<The current setting for General Configuration -> >>> Server Base Url is: >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence>> >>> Could you have a look at this please ?>> >>> >>> Here is his answer: >>> <gmcdonald> erm, I think you better look at the ofbiz wiki side of things. >>> Having a tiny link inside asf confluence pointing to >>> ofbiz confluence which is set up to redirect back to asf confluence is >>> bound to have problems, I would say that tiny links >>> produced >>> with the ofbiz.org url should be changed >>> <gmcdonald> ... or at least check how redirection is set up at ofbiz.org, >>> the redirects directly from ofbiz.org in some instances >>> point to the cwiki homepage instead of your space(s) ,this is not a tiny >>> url or asf confluence problem as I see it >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>> >>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> >>>> Hi Tim, >>>> >>>>> I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always >>>>> work >>>> >>>> I heard this before ;o). I have asked Gavin at >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2347?focusedCommentId=12788583&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12788583. >>>> But I'm not sure it's the right side to ask. >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com> >>>> I don't think it's a good idea to put it back - we've moved it and forever >>>> there it will stay. I also don't agree that you >>>> should >>>> encourage people to not use the tinyURLs - this probably only happens >>>> because the Confluence servers were setup very differently >>>> and with different purposes. I encourage people to use tinyURLs going >>>> forward because they will always work. This may be >>>> something you want to check with the ASF on - they're the only ones who >>>> can qualify that last statement about the tinyURLs. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ruppert >>>> -- >>>> Tim Ruppert >>>> HotWax Media >>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>> >>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>> >>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tim, >>>>> >>>>> It's depend how you see it. Facts 1st: >>>>> There are still 59 old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x) scattered in >>>>> the trunk. >>>>> There are also 18 pages in cwiki with at least one old tinylinks in. >>>>> >>>>> Some persons have tried to put as much as documentation in place these >>>>> last years. This in order to help the community, >>>>> especially newcomers (but not only). Hoping also that it will help the >>>>> community to grow. I have always thought that an API, and >>>>> at large a software, (with little imagiantion you can see OFBiz as a very >>>>> large API) without documentation is very less usefull >>>>> or at least less efficient. >>>>> >>>>> I think we begin to harvest a part of our effort, and losing a part of >>>>> the intelligence put there (I mean those old tinylinks, >>>>> kind of synapses) definitely annoy me. >>>>> >>>>> Alternative : >>>>> 1) Forget it and let them lost. Hoping (without much faith) that when >>>>> people will get to them they will fix them, mmm... >>>>> 2) Fix them by hand (have mercy ;o) >>>>> 3) Let people know from now to not use tinylinks in cwiki. Export the 5 >>>>> OFBiz cwiki spaces back to Contegix Confluence. Put >>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence in place. Re-export them to cwiki. Not >>>>> sure it will work, we may have to ask Confluence >>>>> support before if ever we want to got this way. >>>>> 4) Find something more clever using regexp. Maybe possible because we >>>>> have still both sources and I guess there are not much >>>>> different tinylinks used at all. But too tired today for elaborating that >>>>> >>>>> My 2cts >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com> >>>>> Does that really matter now? How can we fix it is the only question that >>>>> matters at this point. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ruppert >>>>> -- >>>>> Tim Ruppert >>>>> HotWax Media >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>> >>>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi David, Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if this should not have been done *before* the migration? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "David E Jones" <d...@me.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It looks like that is what it is supposed to be, and it doesn't appear >>>>>>> to be a setting that can change per space or anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In r888559, I wrote <<I have found a way to fix old tinylinks :D >>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142>> >>>>>>>> But I wonder now it this is possible by spaces else we are trapped :/ >>>>>>>> Could you have a look David ? I guess you are the sole person with the >>>>>>>> rights for that in OFBiz community. >>>>>>>> We may ask Gavin also... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>>>>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >
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