Hi David:

David E Jones wrote:
Bring confusion in the future? That's like saying you shouldn't use the term 
object-relational mapping unless you're talking about JPA.

I beg to differ. "Portlets" and "Portals" have clear definitions recognized in the Java community: JSR 168/268. Regardless of when these terms were coined, they now have a brand and the OFBiz community's use of them interchangeably with OFBiz features/functions is confusing at best and misleading at worst.
Just like object-relational mapping is a general term with many variations and 
implementations, and supporting the JPA interfaces is simply a feature of some 
of those implementations, portal and portlet are also general terms with many 
variations and implementations, and only some of them support the JSR 168 
specification.

Should we then say that portal/portlet software not written in Java should not 
use those terms?
If so, which terms should those unfortunate souls use to describe their creations?

-David


On Dec 31, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

I agree with Ruth, this will (and has already) certainly bring some confusion 
in future.

Jacques

From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rhoff...@aesolves.com>
Hi David:
IMO the term "portlet" should only be applied to JSR 168/268 compliant code.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
MyPortal still needs a lot of work.

It should really be just the shell of the portal and include only a very few 
portlets that are part of the framework.

Higher level components, including applications components, can have their own 
portlets that appear in MyPortal by having data in seed/etc data files, and 
that data will tell MyPortal about these portlets.

OOTB the MyPortal stuff shouldn't know anything about any portlets (other than 
a few basic framework ones). At runtime MyPortal will look for information 
about other portlets, but that information should come only from the higher 
level components where the portlets themselves live.

-David


On Dec 31, 2009, at 4:50 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:


That's true, it would be still a dependence.

Anyway, in this case the MyPortal is considered to be dependent from
all other components (because it "mounts" portlets defined by all
other components in the default portalPages).
It should be possible to use the MyPortal component even if one of the
other components is not used.

I think a different logic is needed here.

-Bruno

2009/12/31 David E Jones <d...@me.com>:

That still represents a dependency on the other component.

Lower level components should not even have anything that represents an 
awareness of a higher level component.

The solution, and the only solution, is to move the data to the higher level 
components. It's that simple.

-David


On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:


Hi,
the MyPortal component has many seed data that create a dependence
from many other components.
This is done because the seed data create the default MyPortal
portalPages that include several portlets from all other components.

For example:
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE"
portalPortletId="SystemInfoNotes" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="0"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE"
portalPortletId="SystemInfoStatus" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="1"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE"
portalPortletId="Calendar" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
sequenceNum="2"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE0"
portalPortletId="INCOM_CUST_REQUESTS" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="0"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE0"
portalPortletId="MyCommunications" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="1"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="party" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
sequenceNum="0"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="partyRelContacts" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="1"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="partyRelAccounts" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="2"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="contact" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
sequenceNum="3"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="LoyaltyPoints" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="4"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="PaymentMethods" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="5"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="AvsSettings" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
sequenceNum="6"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="UserLogin" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
sequenceNum="1"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="Attributes" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
sequenceNum="2"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="Visits" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
sequenceNum="3"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="Content" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
sequenceNum="4"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="ShipperAccount" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00002" sequenceNum="5"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="Notes" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
sequenceNum="6"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
portalPortletId="MYTASKSPARTY" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00002" sequenceNum="7"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE2"
portalPortletId="MyCommunications" portletSeqId="00001"
columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="0"/>
  <PortletAttribute portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE2"
portalPortletId="MyCommunications" portletSeqId="00001"
attrName="communicationPartyId" attrValue="Company"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE4"
portalPortletId="mytimesheet" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
sequenceNum="0"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE5"
portalPortletId="mytasks" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
sequenceNum="0"/>

How can we have a conditional seed data loading that would load only
seed data for the portlets really available in the system?
I mean, could we have something like this:

<if-component-loaded name="Workeffort">
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE4"
portalPortletId="mytimesheet" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
sequenceNum="0"/>
  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE5"
portalPortletId="mytasks" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
sequenceNum="0"/>
</if-component-loaded>

or is there any other tecnique to do this?

Many thanks,
Bruno




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