When Portlets were introduced in OFBiz I had in mind what I was
familiar with using JIRA:
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/docs/v3.12/portlets_summary.html
This was also why I initially called "Dashboard" the first portalPage
that is actually in the OFBiz example.

In the latest JIRA version 4.0 they are migrating from Portlets to
Gadgets http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Using+Dashboard+Gadgets
and still calling "Dashboard pages" what is our portalPages.

-Bruno

2010/1/1 Tim Ruppert <tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com>:
> +1 - thanks for bringing sanity back to the discussion.  What shall all of 
> these lost souls in the PHP world with with their creations?  
> http://www.hotscripts.com/category/php/scripts-programs/portal-systems/
>
> Cheers,
> Ruppert
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> On Dec 31, 2009, at 10:28 AM, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> Bring confusion in the future? That's like saying you shouldn't use the term 
>> object-relational mapping unless you're talking about JPA.
>>
>> Just like object-relational mapping is a general term with many variations 
>> and implementations, and supporting the JPA interfaces is simply a feature 
>> of some of those implementations, portal and portlet are also general terms 
>> with many variations and implementations, and only some of them support the 
>> JSR 168 specification.
>>
>> Should we then say that portal/portlet software not written in Java should 
>> not use those terms?
>>
>> If so, which terms should those unfortunate souls use to describe their 
>> creations?
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Ruth, this will (and has already) certainly bring some 
>>> confusion in future.
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rhoff...@aesolves.com>
>>>> Hi David:
>>>> IMO the term "portlet" should only be applied to JSR 168/268 compliant 
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>> MyPortal still needs a lot of work.
>>>>>
>>>>> It should really be just the shell of the portal and include only a very 
>>>>> few portlets that are part of the framework.
>>>>>
>>>>> Higher level components, including applications components, can have 
>>>>> their own portlets that appear in MyPortal by having data in seed/etc 
>>>>> data files, and that data will tell MyPortal about these portlets.
>>>>>
>>>>> OOTB the MyPortal stuff shouldn't know anything about any portlets (other 
>>>>> than a few basic framework ones). At runtime MyPortal will look for 
>>>>> information about other portlets, but that information should come only 
>>>>> from the higher level components where the portlets themselves live.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 31, 2009, at 4:50 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's true, it would be still a dependence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, in this case the MyPortal is considered to be dependent from
>>>>>> all other components (because it "mounts" portlets defined by all
>>>>>> other components in the default portalPages).
>>>>>> It should be possible to use the MyPortal component even if one of the
>>>>>> other components is not used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think a different logic is needed here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/12/31 David E Jones <d...@me.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That still represents a dependency on the other component.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lower level components should not even have anything that represents an 
>>>>>>> awareness of a higher level component.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The solution, and the only solution, is to move the data to the higher 
>>>>>>> level components. It's that simple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> the MyPortal component has many seed data that create a dependence
>>>>>>>> from many other components.
>>>>>>>> This is done because the seed data create the default MyPortal
>>>>>>>> portalPages that include several portlets from all other components.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="SystemInfoNotes" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="0"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="SystemInfoStatus" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="1"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="Calendar" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="2"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE0"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="INCOM_CUST_REQUESTS" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="0"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE0"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="MyCommunications" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="1"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="party" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="0"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="partyRelContacts" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="1"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="partyRelAccounts" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="2"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="contact" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="3"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="LoyaltyPoints" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="4"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="PaymentMethods" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="5"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="AvsSettings" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="6"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="UserLogin" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="1"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="Attributes" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="2"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="Visits" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="3"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="Content" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="4"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="ShipperAccount" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00002" sequenceNum="5"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="Notes" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00002"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="6"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE1"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="MYTASKSPARTY" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00002" sequenceNum="7"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE2"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="MyCommunications" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> columnSeqId="00001" sequenceNum="0"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortletAttribute portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE2"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="MyCommunications" portletSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> attrName="communicationPartyId" attrValue="Company"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE4"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="mytimesheet" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="0"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE5"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="mytasks" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="0"/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can we have a conditional seed data loading that would load only
>>>>>>>> seed data for the portlets really available in the system?
>>>>>>>> I mean, could we have something like this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <if-component-loaded name="Workeffort">
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE4"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="mytimesheet" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="0"/>
>>>>>>>>  <PortalPagePortlet portalPageId="MYPORTAL_EMPLOYEE5"
>>>>>>>> portalPortletId="mytasks" portletSeqId="00001" columnSeqId="00001"
>>>>>>>> sequenceNum="0"/>
>>>>>>>> </if-component-loaded>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or is there any other tecnique to do this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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