On 2/02/2010, at 11:43 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> Jacopo,
> 
> what we need is a wiki page where people can announce activities and
> plans. Not only from committers but also from contributors and perhaps
> even users.
> 
> I have proposed this before. 

That's what we use the dev list for though right?  What would a wiki page have 
achieved that simple discussions on the mailing list wouldn't have?

> 
> In this case we tried to extend the existing ebay component but found
> out that the xml interface could never support the required functions as
> we needed them. Please also remember that not all required functions
> were known from the start.

As I mentioned earlier, it is my understanding that the SDK is just a tool for 
using the XML or SOAP interfaces, so I'm interested to know what wasn't 
possible via the XML interface?

Regards
Scott

> 
> Regards,
> Hans
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 08:30 +0100, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>> 
>> first of all, thank you for contributing this big amount of code.
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2010, at 5:05 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> I am also not sure if we need 2 components. That can only be decided by
>>> the users of the original Ebay component isn't it? I do not know the
>>> user requirements of the original ebay component.
>>> 
>> 
>> Having two components with potentially overlapping features for the same 
>> integration in the official trunk will cause maintenance problems and 
>> confusion; I guess we will all agree on this.
>> I am not asking you to redo your job, it is too late, but... can we agree 
>> that from now on, before implementing a new feature in the trunk (or, even 
>> worst, before adding a new component) we have to study and understand what 
>> already exists and do our best to enhance the existing stuff?
>> 
>>> Now we moved the new functionality to a separate component it is getting
>>> more clear if the old component is still required or not.
>>> 
>> 
>> This is a pain, but we will do this, I can't see another solution now, as 
>> soon as you have completed your work: instead of you studying the original 
>> ebay component we will have to study your new work and verify if the new 
>> component implements all the features covered by the old one and in the same 
>> way; if this will not be true... I don't know what we will do.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Jacopo
>> 
>> 
>>> Let us first complete the new component and get it fully tested and then
>>> restart this discussion.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:46 -0800, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>> Okay so once I saw this I took the 5 minutes necessary to look at eBay's 
>>>> services and start thinking that this commit is a bad idea.
>>>> Please correct me if any of the following is wrong:
>>>> - When you originally brought this up, you described the problem as one of 
>>>> XML vs. API but I think what you actually meant is eBay SDK vs. using XML 
>>>> directly?
>>>> - You mentioned that the API (SDK) provides additional functionality but 
>>>> it appears to me that it simply abstracts the use of raw SOAP or XML when 
>>>> interacting with the actual API?
>>>> 
>>>> Based on this I'm not sure that we should have separate components but 
>>>> that the XML based component should just be moved to using the SDK 
>>>> (assuming there are only advantages and no disadvantages in doing so).  
>>>> Doing anything else will just result in twice as much code to maintain 
>>>> with both components doing the same thing (or worse yet, similar things 
>>>> but with huge differences in implementation from the user's perspective).  
>>>> Converting the existing XML integration to use the SDK will ensure that we 
>>>> have a single solution in place and that no functionality in the existing 
>>>> component is lost.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> HotWax Media
>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/02/2010, at 7:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Author: hansbak
>>>>> Date: Wed Feb  3 03:16:07 2010
>>>>> New Revision: 905876
>>>>> 
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=905876&view=rev
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> move the java api functions from the existing ebay component to the new 
>>>>> ebaystore component: no functional changes
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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