Hans Bakker wrote:
> Adam, 
> 
> please do not introduce the Debian fights where you seem to be so proud
> of, in this mailing list.

I never said that.  I said my experience with Debian in the past has
made me able to work better in community projects.  And that if people
think this is a flamewar, it isn't, I've experienced way worse.

> I appreciate your technical involvement but your mailinglist behavior is
> not acceptable. You are scaring away any new contributions from new
> people.

My behaviour?  Really?  What about David's?  Just because David
started the project, does not mean that he is right by fiat.  Everyone
can be wrong at times.

I have been extremely nice, and not singling out anyone, until now.
Repeat offenders will always get more stern responses.  I am only
saying what we as a group have agreed with.  It's just that people who
have been involved with the project for an extended period that can't
follow the guidelines that have been discussed and agreed upon that I
take exception with.

New people by their nature don't know, so we have to be more polite with.

Listen, everyone.  Very closely.  It's not hard to comprehend.  I like
things consistent.  I then mention the reasons why I like things
consistent.  Others on this list have agreed.  And, it just makes
sense.  Consistent includes all formatting, and it includes not
breaking functionality or builds.  So, I then go and point out issues
with consistency when they occur.  Others don't point theses issues
out, but that doesn't make them any less valid.

For repeat offenders, I will always get more forceful.  It doesn't
matter who you are, or how much you have done.  This is part of my
blindness thing;  Leaders of the project or various lueitenants

Then, for some reason, random other people who are not involved
suddenly think I am saying something out of the clear blue; they don't
realize that this is a long term sort of issue, that has been
discussed with others, and said others have agreed.  That I will not
accept.

If you are a police officer, and you get called to an accident, where
a car has run into a wall, killing a woman who was with an unborn
child that was riding in the passenger seat, are you going to blame
the driver of the vehicle who survied without a scratch?  Or, are you
going to investigate, and discover that another driver who has left
the scene side-swiped the car?

Another way to look at this, is that people are only responding to the
end result, without knowing(or care to investigate) the root cause.
This again, is wrong, period.  And yet *I* get blamed for calling
someone else out, when the cause is perfectly valid.

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