I think David should keep ofbiz.org as his own. Community is not communist.
Please stop this discussion. 在 2010-04-21三的 11:46 -0600，Tim Ruppert写道： > Here's the latest update from Infra at the ASF: > > 1. They will be happy to migrate the ofbiz.org domain. > 2. They have recommended that we not transfer it to them right away > - But instead either reup it where it is or migrate it to someone who can > manage it > 3. The reason is that it will take a while for them to migrate all of the > services :( > - This will be important IMO. > - The services that would be migrated would be: > -- DNS > -- Apache redirects > 4. Getting services in place before we move to the ASF. > - I think this is important because due to propagation, we would have > everything already setup. > - This will lead to less headaches. > > Because David does not want to be in the middle of this, my vote would still > be to transfer the domain to someone like Jacopo since he's the PMC chair. > He gets the domain reup at really cheap prices, he has access to keep the > services exactly as they are today and can get the information to the ASF, > and there's no chance that he'd do something devious with the domain. > > David, if you are interested in this, please think about it and let us all > know - this will ensure that services do not go down for anyone involved - > and Jacopo can manage migrating it to the ASF once the DNS and apache host > files are already in place. > > Cheers, > Ruppert > > On Apr 16, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > > > On Apr 17, 2010, at 7:05 AM, David E Jones wrote: > > > >> > >> Wow, this discussion has really taken on a life of its own. > >> > >> Maybe I wasn't clear enough before... the $35 or somehow saving me some > >> effort in continuing to do things the old way is not the point, the point > >> is to get this onto ASF infra ASAP just like all other resources. It would > >> be way easier to click a few buttons but that wouldn't resolve the issue > >> with ofbiz.org that some individual owns the domain and that the DNS is > >> still hosted by a third party (ie Contegix). > >> > > > > Yes this makes a lot of sense to me; let's see if the Infra can take action > > quickly (the ball is already in their court) and if not let's find another > > good solution together. > > > >> On the other hand, the whole auctioning idea for the domain name is > >> interesting... do I hear $1000? One thousand to the respectable lady in > >> front. Do I hear $1500? Fifteen hundred to the gentleman in the t-shirt > >> and shorts. Let's get this really going! Do I hear $5000? Amazing folks! > >> Five thousand to the man in the suit with the hat with red lettering on it > >> that I can't quite make out from here... looks like it starts with an "O" > >> and is in all caps. Going once... going twice... sold! A special thanks to > >> all involved, and to the man who... wait... wow again! I've just been > >> informed that ofbiz.org and sun.com are now under the same umbrella... who > >> could have imagined! ;) > > > > This is really great! > > BTW thank you David for bringing up this important topic. > > > > Jacopo > > > >> > >> -David > >> > >> > >> On Apr 16, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: > >> > >>> The only thing that's less low effort is that this keeps David having to > >>> mess with it - which is what I'm hoping to avoid. As I said before - it > >>> doesn't matter to me - this is just a super cheap way of doing things and > >>> puts the onus on the people who want to follow this one all the way thru. > >>> > >>> > >>> The good thing - is regardless of which way David decides to go - I think > >>> we'll be able to support making it happen relatively quickly. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Ruppert > >>> > >>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Ean Schuessler wrote: > >>> > >>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: > >>>>> I guess I'd love to know why you're looking to pay $70+ for an interim > >>>>> solution when I can get do it for the community for just a few bucks > >>>>> and I'll likely be the one to help ensure that it actually gets pushed > >>>>> forward and maintained? Doesn't matter much to me, sounds like David > >>>>> should just put it up for auction - there seem to be a lot of people > >>>>> looking to spend money on it .... > >>>>> > >>>> I just figured David has been paying for it for some time and could use > >>>> a little reimbursement for his troubles. I agree with you that Network > >>>> Solutions prices are highway robbery. OpenSRS (TUCOWS) is cheaper as is > >>>> GoDaddy or a bunch of others but they all require some immediate effort. > >>>> I figured paying the $35 is the lowest effort way for David to keep the > >>>> domain secure until ASF-infra is ready to do something about it. He'd > >>>> get reimbursed and then some for his effort with my scheme. > >>>> > >>>> I do share your dislike for Network Solutions but what's $35 more bucks > >>>> in the larger picture? > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Ean Schuessler, CTO > >>>> e...@brainfood.com > >>>> 214-720-0700 x 315 > >>>> Brainfood, Inc. > >>>> http://www.brainfood.com > >>>> > >>> > >> > > >
