Shi, I'm the one who started this discussion. My intention so far has been to try to encourage some action on this issue. So far, that has failed (lots of talk, no action).
If I kept ofbiz.org I'm not sure what I'd even do with it, and I'd rather have the ASF take it over. Still, after the responses so far keeping it for my own isn't a bad idea... and becoming more tempting. Most likely though I'll just play the Hotwax game and hold on to it but change the DNS server and park it to encourage action. -David On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Shi Yusen wrote: > I think David should keep ofbiz.org as his own. Community is not > communist. > > Please stop this discussion. > > > 在 2010-04-21三的 11:46 -0600，Tim Ruppert写道： >> Here's the latest update from Infra at the ASF: >> >> 1. They will be happy to migrate the ofbiz.org domain. >> 2. They have recommended that we not transfer it to them right away >> - But instead either reup it where it is or migrate it to someone who can >> manage it >> 3. The reason is that it will take a while for them to migrate all of the >> services :( >> - This will be important IMO. >> - The services that would be migrated would be: >> -- DNS >> -- Apache redirects >> 4. Getting services in place before we move to the ASF. >> - I think this is important because due to propagation, we would have >> everything already setup. >> - This will lead to less headaches. >> >> Because David does not want to be in the middle of this, my vote would still >> be to transfer the domain to someone like Jacopo since he's the PMC chair. >> He gets the domain reup at really cheap prices, he has access to keep the >> services exactly as they are today and can get the information to the ASF, >> and there's no chance that he'd do something devious with the domain. >> >> David, if you are interested in this, please think about it and let us all >> know - this will ensure that services do not go down for anyone involved - >> and Jacopo can manage migrating it to the ASF once the DNS and apache host >> files are already in place. >> >> Cheers, >> Ruppert >> >> On Apr 16, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >> >>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 7:05 AM, David E Jones wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Wow, this discussion has really taken on a life of its own. >>>> >>>> Maybe I wasn't clear enough before... the $35 or somehow saving me some >>>> effort in continuing to do things the old way is not the point, the point >>>> is to get this onto ASF infra ASAP just like all other resources. It would >>>> be way easier to click a few buttons but that wouldn't resolve the issue >>>> with ofbiz.org that some individual owns the domain and that the DNS is >>>> still hosted by a third party (ie Contegix). >>>> >>> >>> Yes this makes a lot of sense to me; let's see if the Infra can take action >>> quickly (the ball is already in their court) and if not let's find another >>> good solution together. >>> >>>> On the other hand, the whole auctioning idea for the domain name is >>>> interesting... do I hear $1000? One thousand to the respectable lady in >>>> front. Do I hear $1500? Fifteen hundred to the gentleman in the t-shirt >>>> and shorts. Let's get this really going! Do I hear $5000? Amazing folks! >>>> Five thousand to the man in the suit with the hat with red lettering on it >>>> that I can't quite make out from here... looks like it starts with an "O" >>>> and is in all caps. Going once... going twice... sold! A special thanks to >>>> all involved, and to the man who... wait... wow again! I've just been >>>> informed that ofbiz.org and sun.com are now under the same umbrella... who >>>> could have imagined! ;) >>> >>> This is really great! >>> BTW thank you David for bringing up this important topic. >>> >>> Jacopo >>> >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>> >>>>> The only thing that's less low effort is that this keeps David having to >>>>> mess with it - which is what I'm hoping to avoid. As I said before - it >>>>> doesn't matter to me - this is just a super cheap way of doing things and >>>>> puts the onus on the people who want to follow this one all the way thru. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The good thing - is regardless of which way David decides to go - I think >>>>> we'll be able to support making it happen relatively quickly. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ruppert >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Ean Schuessler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>>> I guess I'd love to know why you're looking to pay $70+ for an interim >>>>>>> solution when I can get do it for the community for just a few bucks >>>>>>> and I'll likely be the one to help ensure that it actually gets pushed >>>>>>> forward and maintained? Doesn't matter much to me, sounds like David >>>>>>> should just put it up for auction - there seem to be a lot of people >>>>>>> looking to spend money on it .... >>>>>>> >>>>>> I just figured David has been paying for it for some time and could use >>>>>> a little reimbursement for his troubles. I agree with you that Network >>>>>> Solutions prices are highway robbery. OpenSRS (TUCOWS) is cheaper as is >>>>>> GoDaddy or a bunch of others but they all require some immediate effort. >>>>>> I figured paying the $35 is the lowest effort way for David to keep the >>>>>> domain secure until ASF-infra is ready to do something about it. He'd >>>>>> get reimbursed and then some for his effort with my scheme. >>>>>> >>>>>> I do share your dislike for Network Solutions but what's $35 more bucks >>>>>> in the larger picture? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ean Schuessler, CTO >>>>>> e...@brainfood.com >>>>>> 214-720-0700 x 315 >>>>>> Brainfood, Inc. >>>>>> http://www.brainfood.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
