That's great news Ryan - I can't wait to see the new theme!

It's good to know you're willing to help with Flat Grey - I'm no graphics 
artist. As far as updating Flay Grey - I can create a Jira issue and you can 
supply patches if you like. I really don't have much to say in addition to what 
I've said on the mailing list.

Maybe the location of the main navigation tab bar can be controlled by a user 
setting - top, left, or right.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Ryan Foster <cont...@ryanlfoster.com> wrote:
> IMO I see no reason to have a "Flat
> Grey Evolution" theme.  Adrian is right, the Flat Grey
> theme hasn't had a visual update in years and it looks very
> dated.  It needs some love.  Let's not add another
> improved version, let's just improve the version we have
> now.  I think that is more efficient and more
> beneficial in the long run.
> 
> As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal,
> tab-like navigation without actually having the tabs look
> like tabs.  Because, the absolutely do look terrible
> displayed in two rows.   Adrian, I would be
> happy to collaborate with you on this.  I think I have
> some ideas that could help.  Email me directly if you
> want to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
> discussion.
> 
> Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can
> use this as an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a
> new theme I have been working on already for some time now
> that I honestly hope will become the go-to theme for
> scalability and customization, and that will eventually
> replace the Flat Grey theme altogether.  The new theme
> scales down very well to 800x600 and has minimal styling for
> maximum flexibility and customization.  Stay tuned for
> more details in the next few days...
> 
> Ryan L. Foster
> 801.671.0769
> cont...@ryanlfoster.com
> 
> On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
> 
> > Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs
> look like pieces of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible
> when they are displayed in two rows.
> > 
> > -Adrian
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> wrote:
> >> By "chiclet" main navigation style,
> >> you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep
> Flat Grey as
> >> it is (because there are advantages 
> >> to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...
> >> 
> >> Jacques
> >> 
> >> From: "Adrian Crum" <adrian.c...@yahoo.com>
> >>> I was thinking we could use colors from the
> Apache logo
> >> and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to
> get rid of
> >> the "chiclet" 
> >>> main navigation style, and maybe have that
> menu in a
> >> collapsible left column.
> >>> 
> >>> -Adrian
> >>> 
> >>> --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp 
> >>> <sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> From: Sascha Rodekamp <sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual
> Theme
> >>>> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
> >> "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> >>>> Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
> >>>> I really would appreciate to keep the
> >>>> Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
> >>>> few visual improvements.
> >>>> Let me think about this, maybe somethink
> comes to
> >> my mind
> >>>> ..... :-)
> >>>> 
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>> 
> >>>> 2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> >>>> 
> >>>>> IIRW, it's the only really RTL
> capable. So a
> >> big YES
> >>>> to keep it, of course.
> >>>>> I have no ideas though :/
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Jacques
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> From: "Adrian Crum" <adrian.c...@yahoo.com>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The Flat Grey visual theme is getting
> old.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> The current version of the theme
> is based
> >> on the
> >>>> original look and feel of
> >>>>>> OFBiz when I first joined the
> community -
> >> back in
> >>>> 2004. Around the Spring of
> >>>>>> 2007 I added some gradient gifs to
> make
> >> the
> >>>> original style a little more
> >>>>>> interesting.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> After that, the visual theme was
> >> converted to a
> >>>> floating flexible layout
> >>>>>> (to fit any size screen), it was
> made
> >>>> sight-impaired accessible (font size
> >>>>>> can be changed), and it added
> support
> >> for
> >>>> bi-directional layout (for rtl
> >>>>>> languages). Those design decisions
> were
> >> made by
> >>>> the OFBiz community and, in
> >>>>>> my opinion, continue to make the
> Flat
> >> Grey theme
> >>>> the fallback theme when all
> >>>>>> else fails. It just works.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Despite its advantages, it looks
> dated. I
> >> would
> >>>> like to update it to make
> >>>>>> it more modern, but maintain its
> >> advantages over
> >>>> the other themes. I'm
> >>>>>> thinking it only needs css and gif
> file
> >> updates.
> >>>> The current templates and
> >>>>>> javascripts would be maintained.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> If anyone is interested, they are
> welcome
> >> to help
> >>>> out. I would also
> >>>>>> appreciate any suggestions or
> comments.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Let me know what you think.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> -Adrian
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Sascha Rodekamp
> >>>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH
> >>>> Johanniskirchplatz 6
> >>>> D-33615 Bielefeld
> >>>> http://www.lynx.de
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



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