That sounds great.  Create the issue and send me a link to it and I'll get to 
work.

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:

> That's great news Ryan - I can't wait to see the new theme!
> 
> It's good to know you're willing to help with Flat Grey - I'm no graphics 
> artist. As far as updating Flay Grey - I can create a Jira issue and you can 
> supply patches if you like. I really don't have much to say in addition to 
> what I've said on the mailing list.
> 
> Maybe the location of the main navigation tab bar can be controlled by a user 
> setting - top, left, or right.
> 
> -Adrian
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Ryan Foster <cont...@ryanlfoster.com> wrote:
>> IMO I see no reason to have a "Flat
>> Grey Evolution" theme.  Adrian is right, the Flat Grey
>> theme hasn't had a visual update in years and it looks very
>> dated.  It needs some love.  Let's not add another
>> improved version, let's just improve the version we have
>> now.  I think that is more efficient and more
>> beneficial in the long run.
>> 
>> As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal,
>> tab-like navigation without actually having the tabs look
>> like tabs.  Because, the absolutely do look terrible
>> displayed in two rows.   Adrian, I would be
>> happy to collaborate with you on this.  I think I have
>> some ideas that could help.  Email me directly if you
>> want to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
>> discussion.
>> 
>> Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can
>> use this as an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a
>> new theme I have been working on already for some time now
>> that I honestly hope will become the go-to theme for
>> scalability and customization, and that will eventually
>> replace the Flat Grey theme altogether.  The new theme
>> scales down very well to 800x600 and has minimal styling for
>> maximum flexibility and customization.  Stay tuned for
>> more details in the next few days...
>> 
>> Ryan L. Foster
>> 801.671.0769
>> cont...@ryanlfoster.com
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>> 
>>> Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs
>> look like pieces of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible
>> when they are displayed in two rows.
>>> 
>>> -Adrian
>>> 
>>> --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> By "chiclet" main navigation style,
>>>> you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep
>> Flat Grey as
>>>> it is (because there are advantages 
>>>> to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...
>>>> 
>>>> Jacques
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Adrian Crum" <adrian.c...@yahoo.com>
>>>>> I was thinking we could use colors from the
>> Apache logo
>>>> and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to
>> get rid of
>>>> the "chiclet" 
>>>>> main navigation style, and maybe have that
>> menu in a
>>>> collapsible left column.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp 
>>>>> <sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Sascha Rodekamp <sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual
>> Theme
>>>>>> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
>>>> "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
>>>>>> Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
>>>>>> I really would appreciate to keep the
>>>>>> Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
>>>>>> few visual improvements.
>>>>>> Let me think about this, maybe somethink
>> comes to
>>>> my mind
>>>>>> ..... :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> IIRW, it's the only really RTL
>> capable. So a
>>>> big YES
>>>>>> to keep it, of course.
>>>>>>> I have no ideas though :/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: "Adrian Crum" <adrian.c...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Flat Grey visual theme is getting
>> old.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The current version of the theme
>> is based
>>>> on the
>>>>>> original look and feel of
>>>>>>>> OFBiz when I first joined the
>> community -
>>>> back in
>>>>>> 2004. Around the Spring of
>>>>>>>> 2007 I added some gradient gifs to
>> make
>>>> the
>>>>>> original style a little more
>>>>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> After that, the visual theme was
>>>> converted to a
>>>>>> floating flexible layout
>>>>>>>> (to fit any size screen), it was
>> made
>>>>>> sight-impaired accessible (font size
>>>>>>>> can be changed), and it added
>> support
>>>> for
>>>>>> bi-directional layout (for rtl
>>>>>>>> languages). Those design decisions
>> were
>>>> made by
>>>>>> the OFBiz community and, in
>>>>>>>> my opinion, continue to make the
>> Flat
>>>> Grey theme
>>>>>> the fallback theme when all
>>>>>>>> else fails. It just works.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Despite its advantages, it looks
>> dated. I
>>>> would
>>>>>> like to update it to make
>>>>>>>> it more modern, but maintain its
>>>> advantages over
>>>>>> the other themes. I'm
>>>>>>>> thinking it only needs css and gif
>> file
>>>> updates.
>>>>>> The current templates and
>>>>>>>> javascripts would be maintained.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If anyone is interested, they are
>> welcome
>>>> to help
>>>>>> out. I would also
>>>>>>>> appreciate any suggestions or
>> comments.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Sascha Rodekamp
>>>>>> Lynx-Consulting GmbH
>>>>>> Johanniskirchplatz 6
>>>>>> D-33615 Bielefeld
>>>>>> http://www.lynx.de
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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