> Strange occurrences stopped happening for me after a couple of months and
> generally stopped once all developers either stopped using git client UIs
> that used settings they didn't understand or they started using the command
> line…


That’s my experience, too, and therefore one of my reasons to not love git so 
far. I’m a command line guy, but for daily „commit" work i miss the overview an 
the usability of a UI that I can rely on. But this is a mainly „layer 8“ 
problem…

In my opinion, the main aspect is the decision for a different workflow for 
contributing and managing this project with its opportunities and drawbacks, as 
stated widely in this thread. Maybe it’s necessary to think about which 
processes and workflows maybe the ones that are expected by the current and 
especially future audience/clients/contributors from a state of the art, living 
and ongoing open source project.

Martin Becker
ecomify GmbH




> Am 23.04.2015 um 10:28 schrieb Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxsystems.com>:
> 
> "I am thoroughly familiar with Git."
> "Git always screws things up."
> 
> These two statements are complete contradictions.  Outcomes in git only
> appear strange while you're still unfamiliar with it.
> 
> I've been using the git-svn bridge to commit to OFBiz for about 4 years and
> using a git repo on my current project for the last 18 months or so.
> Strange occurrences stopped happening for me after a couple of months and
> generally stopped once all developers either stopped using git client UIs
> that used settings they didn't understand or they started using the command
> line (which is exceedingly simple for basic workflows).
> 
> The value of feature branches and pull requests over patches cannot be
> overstated IMO.  The ability to easily multi-task on features, review pull
> requests, keep a real commit history for contributed features, to
> collaborate outside of the main repo puts git miles ahead of svn for
> collaborative incremental software development.
> 
> Regards
> Scott
> 
> 
> On 20 April 2015 at 22:19, Adrian Crum <adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I am thoroughly familiar with Git. I've used it on on three projects, and
>> that is why I don't like it.
>> 
>> I have a far easier time merging branches with Subversion. Git always
>> screws things up.
>> 
>> I don't need to be convinced of anything. I have my experience and my
>> opinion. But still, I'm not opposed to switching to Git.
>> 
>> Adrian Crum
>> Sandglass Software
>> www.sandglass-software.com
>> 
>> On 4/20/2015 11:08 AM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:
>> 
>>> One of the most difficult and challenging issue with branches is _merging_
>>> them. Git is a tool that is far more advanced in its feature set in that
>>> area.
>>> 
>>> It seems some of the opinions expressed against git are due to
>>> unfamiliarity. The only way to be convinced is to try it on an advanced
>>> level as i don't think an email thread would be enough for convincing
>>> anyone of the merits.
>>> 
>>> My 2 cents
>>> 
>>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>> On Apr 20, 2015 12:54 PM, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If we only want GIT for multiple local development branches, then we are
>>>> doing for the wrong reasons. SVN doesn't hinder you in doing that today.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>> 
>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Like Adrian and mostly for the same reasons, I don't believe we need
>>>>> Git.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But there is one other major reason which has already been discussed in
>>>>> the other common ASF MLs.  As Taher exulted, it's possible to create
>>>>> 
>>>> local
>>>> 
>>>>> branches. So people are able to do a lot of work alone without
>>>>> exchanging
>>>>> before committing or submitting. It will certainly not help to have this
>>>>> possibility. Remember our recent discussion on the lack or core commits
>>>>> reviews. With Git you end with commits bursts or big patches and it's
>>>>> 
>>>> then
>>>> 
>>>>> hard to review and too late to share ideas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So unlike Adrian, I'm even strongly against it. I will not hesitate to
>>>>> 
>>>> use
>>>> 
>>>>> a -1 if necessary!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 20/04/2015 09:53, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't agree that "all major contributors are using git."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Personally, I find Git to be an overly complicated solution to a simple
>>>>>> problem. It frequently does bizarre things that no one understands, and
>>>>>> 
>>>>> you
>>>> 
>>>>> are left with things being mysteriously reverted for unknown reasons.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This isn't a -1 vote though. I'm just making it clear that I will be
>>>>>> dragged kicking and screaming into using it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/20/2015 5:38 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As discussed at apachecon in Austin, i propose to switch from svn to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> git
>>>> 
>>>>> for the ofbiz repository. The main reason being that all major
>>>>>>> contributors are using git and contributions are cumbersome, further,
>>>>>>> git allows for better branching and merging.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Hans
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 

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