@Jacques: is your +1 to be regarded as a yes vote fore moving to git? I am getting confused somehow.
Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > +1, well summarised Adrian! > > Jacques > > > Le 20/04/2015 12:39, Adrian Crum a écrit : > >> That's the point I was trying to make. Our needs in this project are >> pretty basic, and Subversion handles those needs well. Git will merely make >> things unnecessarily complicated. >> >> At ApacheCon, the motivations for switching to Git were not related to >> OFBiz project management, but were related to local management of >> OFBiz-based projects. The common complaint was connecting local Git >> repositories to the project's Subversion repository. So, switching the >> project to Git will make life easier for some. >> >> Adrian Crum >> Sandglass Software >> www.sandglass-software.com >> >> On 4/20/2015 11:31 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: >> >>> I am also familiar with Git. >>> >>> Please don't project your uncertainties regarding the expertise and >>> experiences of other as their traits. And don't confuse advancement with >>> suitability. A rocket ship is more advanced than a bike. But that doesn't >>> mean it is suitable for more than just hauling stuff into space. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>> Services and Retail & Trade >>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Adrian Crum < >>> adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com> wrote: >>> >>> I am thoroughly familiar with Git. I've used it on on three projects, >>>> and >>>> that is why I don't like it. >>>> >>>> I have a far easier time merging branches with Subversion. Git always >>>> screws things up. >>>> >>>> I don't need to be convinced of anything. I have my experience and my >>>> opinion. But still, I'm not opposed to switching to Git. >>>> >>>> Adrian Crum >>>> Sandglass Software >>>> www.sandglass-software.com >>>> >>>> On 4/20/2015 11:08 AM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote: >>>> >>>> One of the most difficult and challenging issue with branches is >>>>> _merging_ >>>>> them. Git is a tool that is far more advanced in its feature set in >>>>> that >>>>> area. >>>>> >>>>> It seems some of the opinions expressed against git are due to >>>>> unfamiliarity. The only way to be convinced is to try it on an advanced >>>>> level as i don't think an email thread would be enough for convincing >>>>> anyone of the merits. >>>>> >>>>> My 2 cents >>>>> >>>>> Taher Alkhateeb >>>>> On Apr 20, 2015 12:54 PM, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If we only want GIT for multiple local development branches, then we >>>>> are >>>>> >>>>>> doing for the wrong reasons. SVN doesn't hinder you in doing that >>>>>> today. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>> >>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Like Adrian and mostly for the same reasons, I don't believe we need >>>>>> >>>>>>> Git. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But there is one other major reason which has already been discussed >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the other common ASF MLs. As Taher exulted, it's possible to create >>>>>>> >>>>>>> local >>>>>> >>>>>> branches. So people are able to do a lot of work alone without >>>>>>> exchanging >>>>>>> before committing or submitting. It will certainly not help to have >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> possibility. Remember our recent discussion on the lack or core >>>>>>> commits >>>>>>> reviews. With Git you end with commits bursts or big patches and it's >>>>>>> >>>>>>> then >>>>>> >>>>>> hard to review and too late to share ideas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So unlike Adrian, I'm even strongly against it. I will not hesitate >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> use >>>>>> >>>>>> a -1 if necessary! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 20/04/2015 09:53, Adrian Crum a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't agree that "all major contributors are using git." >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally, I find Git to be an overly complicated solution to a >>>>>>>> simple >>>>>>>> problem. It frequently does bizarre things that no one understands, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> are left with things being mysteriously reverted for unknown reasons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This isn't a -1 vote though. I'm just making it clear that I will be >>>>>>>> dragged kicking and screaming into using it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrian Crum >>>>>>>> Sandglass Software >>>>>>>> www.sandglass-software.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/20/2015 5:38 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As discussed at apachecon in Austin, i propose to switch from svn >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> git >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> for the ofbiz repository. The main reason being that all major >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> contributors are using git and contributions are cumbersome, >>>>>>>>> further, >>>>>>>>> git allows for better branching and merging. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Hans >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>
