But what are the proposals? Where can these be found? Best regards,
Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > Actually maybe I'm misunderstanding you and I also want to clarify with > everybody. I will try to be brief and right to the point! > > Do you (we) want to replace the widgets by something like Ean and Anil > proposed many times, or do we want to improve them using these new tools? > > Jacques > > Le 13/05/2015 22:15, Julien NICOLAS a écrit : > >> >> Le 13/05/2015 16:35, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> >>> Le 13/05/2015 15:04, Julien NICOLAS a écrit : >>> >>>> Hello Pierre, >>>> >>>> Le 13/05/2015 12:35, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>> >>>>> For what it is worth, the BOOTSTRAP_theme dev branch is a other way to >>>>> enhance the user experience. Unfortunately the work is not done yet. >>>>> >>>> The problem is that the GUI is a demo GUI. Then all the time you spend >>>> to solve all GUI problems, will potentially lost because nobody use it (and >>>> when I say that I think in particular to the order screen that is a >>>> nightmare...). >>>> It's better that OFBiz embedded GUI web framework (like bootstrap but >>>> not only, it can be bootstrap based tool for dashboard, etc.) and a >>>> documentation on how to use it. >>>> >>> >>> I don't know if nobody is using it (I guess some are ;)), but I believe >>> a lot are reusing parts of it. The idea is not only to provide a demo but >>> also to provide ideas, bricks to be reused. Did you wrote your own totally >>> from scratch :-o (I guess not even considering ideas) ? >>> >>> Is the BOOTSTRAP_theme dev branch not a way to embed one "HTML, CSS, and >>> JavaScript framework" and use its artefacts inside widgets? >>> What are actually the parts you found so bad? >>> >> I mean if you need to adapt the actual visual theme to bootstrap, it may >> take a lot of time but the gain is very low. >> It will be more interesting to add tool (like bootstrap or some js tool >> or widget) and use it for the future demo screen. To have a good screen >> render by using a new HTML/CSS/JS framework (like bootstrap), you must to >> define your global solution rendering and create GUI specifications that >> contain all visual cases. >> If we speak about create a bootstrap theme not for demo but for a good >> user experience, we'll have to create the GUI specifications first. Then we >> need a GUI developer group that define the guidance and validate new >> screen. In my opinion, changing colour of the actual demo GUI is a waste of >> time. But use new feature for new demo screen, that change the demo version >> into a patchwork but it's not a problem :) >> >> How the widgets are generated, the CSS class used, how js is used inside >>> of that, etc. ? >>> >>> If we go this way (embed a HTML framework in OFBiz) I remember some >>> proposed to use rather foundation, we would need to pick one and only one. >>> Like wed did with jQuery as the main js lib that BTW we need to keep! >>> >> I agree. We have to make the choice of a framework and use it. But we can >> keep in mind that maybe somebody want use another one so we can have detail >> documentation to explain how to change it. >> Another point, prefer to use heritage for the default css class. >> And with the next add-on management, it may be possible to have a >> specific add-on by css framework ;) >> >>> >>> Also some have proposed to get further and use something like Angular >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5040?focusedCommentId=13887287 >>> or Backbone >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5522?focusedCommentId=13885989 >>> you name it... >>> >>> https://cordova.apache.org/ ("aka" PhoneGap) is also worth considering >>> see >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/48792051/mobile_web.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1429534402000&api=v2 >>> >> PhoneGap is a very interesting project but I'm not sure that a phone app >> is a priority but it's only my opinion :D >> >>> >>> We need to make delicate choices and quickly, time is flying... >>> >> So true... >> >> Julien. >> >>> >>> Jacques >>> >> >> >> >>