Below are some, but this question is more to shake things a bit and know what
people think
I think everybody will agree that the Entity Engine is the gem of this project, follows the Service Engine. I believe, though less polished, the
widgets are 3rnd, but that's only my opinion and I'd really like to know others
Jacques
Le 14/05/2015 10:45, Pierre Smits a écrit :
But what are the proposals? Where can these be found?
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
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On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
Actually maybe I'm misunderstanding you and I also want to clarify with
everybody. I will try to be brief and right to the point!
Do you (we) want to replace the widgets by something like Ean and Anil
proposed many times, or do we want to improve them using these new tools?
Jacques
Le 13/05/2015 22:15, Julien NICOLAS a écrit :
Le 13/05/2015 16:35, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
Le 13/05/2015 15:04, Julien NICOLAS a écrit :
Hello Pierre,
Le 13/05/2015 12:35, Pierre Smits a écrit :
For what it is worth, the BOOTSTRAP_theme dev branch is a other way to
enhance the user experience. Unfortunately the work is not done yet.
The problem is that the GUI is a demo GUI. Then all the time you spend
to solve all GUI problems, will potentially lost because nobody use it (and
when I say that I think in particular to the order screen that is a
nightmare...).
It's better that OFBiz embedded GUI web framework (like bootstrap but
not only, it can be bootstrap based tool for dashboard, etc.) and a
documentation on how to use it.
I don't know if nobody is using it (I guess some are ;)), but I believe
a lot are reusing parts of it. The idea is not only to provide a demo but
also to provide ideas, bricks to be reused. Did you wrote your own totally
from scratch :-o (I guess not even considering ideas) ?
Is the BOOTSTRAP_theme dev branch not a way to embed one "HTML, CSS, and
JavaScript framework" and use its artefacts inside widgets?
What are actually the parts you found so bad?
I mean if you need to adapt the actual visual theme to bootstrap, it may
take a lot of time but the gain is very low.
It will be more interesting to add tool (like bootstrap or some js tool
or widget) and use it for the future demo screen. To have a good screen
render by using a new HTML/CSS/JS framework (like bootstrap), you must to
define your global solution rendering and create GUI specifications that
contain all visual cases.
If we speak about create a bootstrap theme not for demo but for a good
user experience, we'll have to create the GUI specifications first. Then we
need a GUI developer group that define the guidance and validate new
screen. In my opinion, changing colour of the actual demo GUI is a waste of
time. But use new feature for new demo screen, that change the demo version
into a patchwork but it's not a problem :)
How the widgets are generated, the CSS class used, how js is used inside
of that, etc. ?
If we go this way (embed a HTML framework in OFBiz) I remember some
proposed to use rather foundation, we would need to pick one and only one.
Like wed did with jQuery as the main js lib that BTW we need to keep!
I agree. We have to make the choice of a framework and use it. But we can
keep in mind that maybe somebody want use another one so we can have detail
documentation to explain how to change it.
Another point, prefer to use heritage for the default css class.
And with the next add-on management, it may be possible to have a
specific add-on by css framework ;)
Also some have proposed to get further and use something like Angular
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5040?focusedCommentId=13887287
or Backbone
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5522?focusedCommentId=13885989
you name it...
https://cordova.apache.org/ ("aka" PhoneGap) is also worth considering
see
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/48792051/mobile_web.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1429534402000&api=v2
PhoneGap is a very interesting project but I'm not sure that a phone app
is a priority but it's only my opinion :D
We need to make delicate choices and quickly, time is flying...
So true...
Julien.
Jacques
