Rather unknown? Might be that you don't know it although it's hard to miss :-)

PIWIK is one of the leading Open Source web analysis platforms and a good alternative to Google Analytics. Several of our customers and our company use it for their business to keep the data on their own infrastructure and access.

PIWIK does have very few and common requirements (Webserver, mysSQL, PHP) so that should be no problem.

But it's my personal opinion and I won't object against Google Analytics if this is what the community wants to use. I think it cannot do harm to mention alternatives.

My main concern is the missing plan as mentioned in my citation.

Regards,

Michael


Am 27.04.17 um 14:18 schrieb Pierre Smits:
I don't feel that implementing and maintaining a rather unknown solution
(with all sub-components/dependencies it requires) is in the best interest
of the project.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Michael Brohl <michael.br...@ecomify.de>
wrote:

Hi Jacques,

as I have already mentioned

[...] before we take any technical action we should have a common
understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to
get out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If
there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held
responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...]

I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking?

Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to
Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking,
if we have a plan.

Regards,

Michael


Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:

OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these
http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html

http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a
link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy
Policy page. ")

So?

Jacques


Le 17/04/2017 à 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

What are others opinions?

Thanks

Jacques


Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit :

I have put it nicely, Jacques.

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit :
It seems we need to:
      - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not
sufficient -
      our own)
      - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie
policies).

I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out
browser
add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best interest
of
our project.

Just a feeling, or?
Jacques


Best regards,
Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>

OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

So it's OK,

Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way?

Thanks

Jacques



Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

Thanks James,

I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira
/browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com.
atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
tabpanel#comment-15970517

Jacques


Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit :

Hi,

According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of
Service at
https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post a
Privacy
Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to collect
anonymous data.

We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser
add-on" at
https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to
participate
or be tracked.

Regards,
James Yong


taher wrote

Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user
information

like
ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do we
need
any
legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input
from
specialists in that area?

The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is our
objective
or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count
per
page?
Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do
we
create
a frequency report?

I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to
do
and
how
will we do it are important questions to answer before going to
the
trouble
of implementing this feature.

[1]
https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection
/analyticsjs/

On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" &lt;
jacques.le.roux@
&gt;
wrote:

I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 <

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the
analytics
script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need
to
discuss
this here before

Jacques


Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

Hi James,

Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no
spam"
header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and
only
there.

Jacques


Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit :

Hi,

I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the
use of
Google
Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee to
gather
info
on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki
pages
and
give
insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited
manpower.

Regards,
James Yong




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