No, given the abundance of SEO and other visit tracking solutions (even OFBiz has on - sort of) it is easy to miss.
So you use it, and you implement it as an alternative - to other solutions - for your customers. Great! That means there in a (direct) source of knowledge this project could tap into. However, that is no guarantee for (timely) success. However, as said earlier, I don't feel it is in the best interest of this project to ask OFBiz volunteers to spend their effort on the upkeep of a system (web server, rdbms and application code), nor ask the ASF spend money on providing services around it. Even when there are other solutions readily and (somewhat) freely available as a service. Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Michael Brohl <michael.br...@ecomify.de> wrote: > Rather unknown? Might be that you don't know it although it's hard to miss > :-) > > PIWIK is one of the leading Open Source web analysis platforms and a good > alternative to Google Analytics. Several of our customers and our company > use it for their business to keep the data on their own infrastructure and > access. > > PIWIK does have very few and common requirements (Webserver, mysSQL, PHP) > so that should be no problem. > > But it's my personal opinion and I won't object against Google Analytics > if this is what the community wants to use. I think it cannot do harm to > mention alternatives. > > My main concern is the missing plan as mentioned in my citation. > > Regards, > > Michael > > > Am 27.04.17 um 14:18 schrieb Pierre Smits: > >> I don't feel that implementing and maintaining a rather unknown solution >> (with all sub-components/dependencies it requires) is in the best interest >> of the project. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >> OFBiz based solutions & services >> >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Michael Brohl <michael.br...@ecomify.de >> > >> wrote: >> >> Hi Jacques, >>> >>> as I have already mentioned >>> >>> [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common >>> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want >>> to >>> get out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If >>> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held >>> responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...] >>> >>> I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking? >>> >>> Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to >>> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for >>> tracking, >>> if we have a plan. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: >>> >>> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these >>> >>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html >>>> >>>> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by a >>>> link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy >>>> Policy page. ") >>>> >>>> So? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>> >>>> What are others opinions? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 16:18, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>> >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>> >>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/04/2017 à 10:05, Pierre Smits a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems we need to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not >>>>>>>> sufficient - >>>>>>>> our own) >>>>>>>> - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie >>>>>>>> policies). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out >>>>>>>> browser >>>>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best >>>>>>>> interest >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> our project. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a feeling, or? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So it's OK, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best way? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 à 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks James, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira >>>>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com. >>>>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment- >>>>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 à 12:28, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms of >>>>>>>>>>> Service at >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> Privacy >>>>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to >>>>>>>>>>> collect >>>>>>>>>>> anonymous data. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out browser >>>>>>>>>>> add-on" at >>>>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to >>>>>>>>>>> participate >>>>>>>>>>> or be tracked. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> taher wrote >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user >>>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do >>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need input >>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is >>>>>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>>>>> objective >>>>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit count >>>>>>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information? Do >>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>>>>>> a frequency report? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want to >>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going to >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection >>>>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" < >>>>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@ >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> analytics >>>>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we need >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>> this here before >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spam" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 à 14:10, james yong a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manpower. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble. >>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >
