Hi Taher,

Ok, I will also put them in wiki. 
Thank you for the review.

Regards,
James Yong

On 2017-04-28 13:07 (+0800), Taher Alkhateeb <slidingfilame...@gmail.com> 
wrote: 
> Hi James,
> 
> First of all, thank you again for taking this initiative and your work on
> it.
> 
> What I understood so far is that your objective is a combination of
> statistical i formation gathering combined with some SEO activities to get
> more landings on our relevant pages.
> 
> I would suggest documenting this stuff in wiki first and getting consensus
> on it. For example you specify information like:
> - what is the statistical data to track?
> - what actions to take based on this data?
> - what structural changes need to happen in our pages
> - what content changes need to happen in our pages?
> - How will this information be shared with the community?
> - How will decisions and actions be carried out on a continuous basis to
> fine-tune our pages?
> - Anything else not mentioned here that you want to accomplish?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Taher Alkhateeb
> 
> On Apr 27, 2017 7:51 PM, "James Yong" <jamesy...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> My proposal for PMC to adopt analytics (open source or not) for the
> development of this project, and hope to achieve the following:
> 
> 1. Measure the (top X) number of visits to page paths by new visitors, and
> arrange these links into a ‘Tour / Getting Started’ page. This allow new
> visitors, faster access to a set of relevant info.  Can update the content
> in  ‘Tour / Getting Started’ every x number of months. Also track and
> improve the conversion rate from ‘Tour / Getting Started’ to the download
> page.
> 2. Monitor the organic search keywords used by users. This allows better
> roadmap planning for documentation and features, taking into account what
> users search for.
> 
> I can provide initial help if required, and will relinquish the analytics
> admin account when done.
> 
> Hi Jacques,
> 
>         We can propose and discuss further what kind of reports are needed
> for Wiki contribution.
> 
> Regards,
> James Yong
> 
> On 2017-04-27 17:02 (+0800), Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > It seems James had a plan, let's see what he proposes...
> >
> > I'm not much worried about using Google Analytics in this case. We could
> open the access to all Wiki contributors.
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> >
> > Le 27/04/2017 � 10:28, Michael Brohl a �crit :
> > > Hi Jacques,
> > >
> > > as I have already mentioned
> > >
> > > [...] before we take any technical action we should have a common
> understanding what we want to achieve with this initiative, what we want to
> get
> > > out of it and who will take the responsibility for these tasks. If
> there is no gain for the project and if this initiative will not be held
> > > responsible by volunteers, it will be unnnecessary effort. [...]
> > >
> > > I haven't seen any concrete plan so why should we start tracking?
> > >
> > > Personally, I'm not very fond of giving away tracking infomations to
> Google and propose to think about setting up a PIWIK instance for tracking,
> if
> > > we have a plan.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 27.04.17 um 10:10 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> > >> OK we need to conclude, positively or not, on this, I found these
> > >>
> > >> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jcr/privacy-policy.html
> > >>
> > >> http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html (linked from other pages by
> a link in the footer: "Read more about our privacy policy on our Privacy
> > >> Policy page. ")
> > >>
> > >> So?
> > >>
> > >> Jacques
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Le 17/04/2017 � 19:18, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
> > >>> What are others opinions?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> Jacques
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Le 17/04/2017 � 16:18, Pierre Smits a �crit :
> > >>>> I have put it nicely, Jacques.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Pierre Smits
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>>>
> > >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > >>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Le 17/04/2017 � 10:05, Pierre Smits a �crit :
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> It seems we need to:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>      - refer the privacy policy (either by the ASF or - if not
> sufficient -
> > >>>>>>      our own)
> > >>>>>>      - have a option to opt out on our website (regarding cookie
> policies).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I don't feel that a suggestion to add '"Google Analytics opt-out
> browser
> > >>>>>> add-on' (as suggested in the JIRA issue) will be in the best
> interest of
> > >>>>>> our project.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> Just a feeling, or?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Pierre Smits
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > >>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So it's OK,
> > >>>>>>> Do we all agree with the request at INFRA-13701? Is it the best
> way?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Le 16/04/2017 � 23:00, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks James,
> > >>>>>>>> I posted your comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira
> > >>>>>>>> /browse/INFRA-13701?focusedCommentId=15970517&page=com.
> > >>>>>>>> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-
> > >>>>>>>> tabpanel#comment-15970517
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Le 18/03/2017 � 12:28, james yong a �crit :
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>> According to "7. Privacy" section under Google Analytics Terms
> of
> > >>>>>>>>> Service at
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/analytics/terms/us.html, we need to post
> a
> > >>>>>>>>> Privacy
> > >>>>>>>>> Policy on the use of Google Analytics which uses cookies to
> collect
> > >>>>>>>>> anonymous data.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> We can ask the users to install "Google Analytics opt-out
> browser
> > >>>>>>>>> add-on" at
> > >>>>>>>>> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if they do not wish to
> > >>>>>>>>> participate
> > >>>>>>>>> or be tracked.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>> James Yong
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> taher wrote
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Reading the specifications in [1] implies tracking of user
> information
> > >>>>>>>>>> like
> > >>>>>>>>>> ip address and location. So the first question to ask is .. do
> we need
> > >>>>>>>>>> any
> > >>>>>>>>>> legal disclaimer? I don't speak legaleze so maybe we need
> input from
> > >>>>>>>>>> specialists in that area?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> The next question to ask is what do we need to track? What is
> our
> > >>>>>>>>>> objective
> > >>>>>>>>>> or the information we want to capture? Is it simply a hit
> count per
> > >>>>>>>>>> page?
> > >>>>>>>>>> Time spent? Others? And how should we share this information?
> Do we
> > >>>>>>>>>> create
> > >>>>>>>>>> a frequency report?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I guess we lack an overall plan on this task. What do we want
> to do
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>> how
> > >>>>>>>>>> will we do it are important questions to answer before going
> to the
> > >>>>>>>>>> trouble
> > >>>>>>>>>> of implementing this feature.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection
> > >>>>>>>>>> /analyticsjs/
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2017 1:13 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <
> > >>>>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux@
> > >>>>>>>>>> >
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701 <
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13701> for the
> analytics
> > >>>>>>>>>>> script addition, but as Michael rightly said on Hipchat we
> need to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> discuss
> > >>>>>>>>>>> this here before
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 18:41, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi James,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe one thing we can do is attach the js script to the "no
> spam"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> header. It's showing on the top of every OFBiz wiki pages
> and only
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> there.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2017 � 14:10, james yong a �crit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if this is possible. Would like to suggest
> the use of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics in Confluence. This will allow the team/committee
> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> gather
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> info
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the users' demographic, know the frequently accessed
> wiki pages
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> give
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> insights on how to optimize user experiences with limited
> manpower.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Yong
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at
> Nabble.com.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.
> > >>>>>>>>> com/Using-Google-Analytics-in-Confluence-tp4703557p4703616.html
> > >>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 

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