Hi chaps and chapesses, Wiley don't know a good idea when they see one and turned down our book proposal, booo. The good thing is in the process they have helped us write the TOC and indicate standard timeframes for writing the chapters. So I would like to pursue this idea anyway, yay.
My plan is to self publish using leanpub, because I think it will be easier for me personally, but also gives us flexibility with the book and saves us selling our souls to Pact or dealing with the other publishing houses on what is quite a specific subject matter. Similarly a paper publisher might pick it up down the line or we can create our own print run if there is a demand. Anyway, those who said they might be interested in helping with the book, are you still interested? If so let me know and we'll sort it out, if we go the self publishing route we need to figure out how much the min/recommended price is and how we split whatever minuscule sum we make. Regards, Tom On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> wrote: > Will do chief > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Chris Mattmann <chris.mattm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I think you should re-engage him - please keep the >> momentum going feel free to CC me and I’ll help. >> >> — >> Chris Mattmann >> chris.mattm...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> >> Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> >> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM >> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal >> >> >I went through a bunch of proposal writing with the guy, then he just >> >disappeared so I guess he got bored. >> > >> >On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < >> >chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >> > >> >> Hey Tom - where are we at on the book? did you move forward with it? >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> >> Chief Architect >> >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> >> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >> >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >> >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> >> >> Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org> >> >> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:38 AM >> >> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org> >> >> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal >> >> >> >> >Thanks Chris. >> >> > >> >> >Eva, I think we can probably include that stuff within one of the >> >>existing >> >> >tutorial sections as your ideas aren't too crazy ;) >> >> > >> >> >Tom >> >> > >> >> >On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < >> >> >chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> you have to have a chapter on NASA earth science missions :) >> >> >> I added it..good luck! >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> >> From: Tom Barber [tom.bar...@meteorite.bi] >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:52 AM >> >> >> To: dev@oodt.apache.org >> >> >> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal >> >> >> >> >> >> Alright chaps this is pretty last minute as I have to chat to the >> guy >> >> >>from >> >> >> Manning tomorrow so if anyone has 5 minutes, can you scan: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dGVf0j25WzXZCyTyuX9aMmmQ06yAPLOFtuTFZ >> >> >>e-0aXk/edit?usp=sharing >> >> >> and add anything you think is missing. The link is open to all so >> you >> >> >> should be able to add/change entries, just italicise them or >> >>something >> >> >>so I >> >> >> can spot them. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Tom Barber < >> tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks for the feedback guys. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The chat I had with the chap was certainly around a full book as I >> >> >>have >> >> >> to >> >> >> > pitch 9 - 14 chapters. He did say they are trying to move away >> from >> >> >> generic >> >> >> > platform books so I think pitching it in the style of a look at >> all >> >> >>the >> >> >> > main components and heavy on the real world how-to and use cases >> >> >>would be >> >> >> > the way I'm tending to go along with a load of stuff on the value >> >>of >> >> >> > metadata etc. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > We discussed use case ideas and I went over some of the crazy NASA >> >> >>stuff >> >> >> > which he said I should include and also a bunch of real world use >> >> >> > cases(smart meters/regulatory compliance application and stuff >> >>from my >> >> >> day >> >> >> > job), but of course, you lot don't live in the real world so >> you'll >> >> >>have >> >> >> to >> >> >> > leave that to me ;) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On 1.0 I'm sure it will come out during the time we would spend >> >> >>writing a >> >> >> > book. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'll come back with a draft toc tonight or tomorrow and those >> >> >>interested >> >> >> > can add their 10 cents. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Tom >> >> >> > On 20 May 2015 18:26, "Lewis John Mcgibbney" >> >> >><lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Spoke to Tom White a while ago @ApacheCon about this very topic >> >>folks >> >> >> with >> >> >> >> one interesting outcome. >> >> >> >> Many publishers (I don't know about Manning, however Chris will >> >> >>likely >> >> >> >> know) are interested in Microbooks or picket guides as well. >> >> >> >> An example is the following >> >> >> >> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007430.do >> >> >> >> I don't know if this fits for something like OODT but you guys >> can >> >> >> >> consider. >> >> >> >> Lewis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Chris Mattmann < >> >> >> >> chris.mattm...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks Mike. I don’t think 1.0 is required >> >> >> >> > *before* writing the book, but can happen >> >> >> >> > while the book is going on (and be pushed in >> >> >> >> > many cases by the book!) :) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > We had the same scenario with Tika in Action. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Cheers, >> >> >> >> > Chris >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > ------------------------ >> >> >> >> > Chris Mattmann >> >> >> >> > chris.mattm...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> >> >> > From: Michael Starch <starc...@umich.edu> >> >> >> >> > Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> >> >> >> >> > Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM >> >> >> >> > To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> >> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: OODT book proposal >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >I am definitely up for this. Are we going to push for an >> >>OODT-1.0 >> >> >> >> > >"polished" released before we write a book? There seem to be >> a >> >> >>lot >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> > >very >> >> >> >> > >nice features in the pipe, which will affect the content of a >> >> >>book. >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >Regardless, I believe the following may be helpful for the >> >>book. >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > - Setting Up OODT >> >> >> >> > > - Major OODT Components >> >> >> >> > > - Extending OODT >> >> >> >> > > - OODT in Operations >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >-Michael >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Freeborn, Dana J (398G) < >> >> >> >> > >dana.j.freeb...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> Hi Tom, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> This is great. I would be happy to contribute to the book >> >>if my >> >> >> >> level >> >> >> >> > >>of >> >> >> >> > >> experience with OODT (which is high) is helpful. It's not >> >> >>clear to >> >> >> >> me >> >> >> >> > >>your >> >> >> >> > >> focus for the book, so you'll just have to tap me if I can >> >> >> >> contribute. >> >> >> >> > >> Paul and Chris will know if I do. Otherwise, I will cheer >> on >> >> >>your >> >> >> >> > >> efforts. :-) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> > >> Dana >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> From: Tom Barber >> >> >> >> > >><tom.bar...@meteorite.bi<mailto:tom.bar...@meteorite.bi>> >> >> >> >> > >> Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>" >> < >> >> >> >> > >> dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>> >> >> >> >> > >> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:02 AM >> >> >> >> > >> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>" >> >> >> >> > >><dev@oodt.apache.org >> >> >> >> > >> <mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>> >> >> >> >> > >> Subject: OODT book proposal >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Hi guys, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> I was on the phone to Manning today about an OODT book that >> >>me, >> >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> > >>and >> >> >> >> > >> Mike Starch mulled over in Texas. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> I've been tasked with coming up with a TOC as the proposal >> so >> >> >>I'll >> >> >> >> knock >> >> >> >> > >> something together and share it later in the week, but on >> >>this >> >> >> topic. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> a) Does anyone have anything they'd especially like to see >> >>in an >> >> >> OODT >> >> >> >> > >>book? >> >> >> >> > >> b) Does anyone want to help donate some hours writing a bit >> >>of >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> book >> >> >> >> > >> (won't be any time soon and takes months so don't worry >> about >> >> >>it, >> >> >> >> and I >> >> >> >> > >> wont hold you to it, just looking for interest) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Tom >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> *Lewis* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
