Chris is correct! I grumbled about the wrong publisher. Apologies to wiley, I meant manning I've been on holiday for too long! On 27 Aug 2015 5:00 pm, "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" < [email protected]> wrote:
> I think you mean Manning right not Wiley > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Tom Barber <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi chaps and chapesses, > > > > Wiley don't know a good idea when they see one and turned down our book > > proposal, booo. The good thing is in the process they have helped us > write > > the TOC and indicate standard timeframes for writing the chapters. So I > > would like to pursue this idea anyway, yay. > > > > My plan is to self publish using leanpub, because I think it will be > easier > > for me personally, but also gives us flexibility with the book and saves > us > > selling our souls to Pact or dealing with the other publishing houses on > > what is quite a specific subject matter. Similarly a paper publisher > might > > pick it up down the line or we can create our own print run if there is a > > demand. > > > > Anyway, those who said they might be interested in helping with the book, > > are you still interested? If so let me know and we'll sort it out, if we > go > > the self publishing route we need to figure out how much the > > min/recommended price is and how we split whatever minuscule sum we make. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tom > > > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Tom Barber <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Will do chief > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Chris Mattmann < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I think you should re-engage him - please keep the > >>> momentum going feel free to CC me and I’ll help. > >>> > >>> — > >>> Chris Mattmann > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Tom Barber <[email protected]> > >>> Reply-To: <[email protected]> > >>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM > >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >>> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal > >>> > >>>> I went through a bunch of proposal writing with the guy, then he just > >>>> disappeared so I guess he got bored. > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hey Tom - where are we at on the book? did you move forward with it? > >>>>> Cheers > >>>>> > >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > >>>>> Chief Architect > >>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) > >>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > >>>>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 > >>>>> Email: [email protected] > >>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > >>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Tom Barber <[email protected]> > >>>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:38 AM > >>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Chris. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Eva, I think we can probably include that stuff within one of the > >>>>> existing > >>>>>> tutorial sections as your ideas aren't too crazy ;) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tom > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < > >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> you have to have a chapter on NASA earth science missions :) > >>>>>>> I added it..good luck! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ________________________________________ > >>>>>>> From: Tom Barber [[email protected]] > >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:52 AM > >>>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Alright chaps this is pretty last minute as I have to chat to the > >>> guy > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>> Manning tomorrow so if anyone has 5 minutes, can you scan: > >>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dGVf0j25WzXZCyTyuX9aMmmQ06yAPLOFtuTFZ > >>>>>>> e-0aXk/edit?usp=sharing > >>>>>>> and add anything you think is missing. The link is open to all so > >>> you > >>>>>>> should be able to add/change entries, just italicise them or > >>>>> something > >>>>>>> so I > >>>>>>> can spot them. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Tom > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Tom Barber < > >>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback guys. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The chat I had with the chap was certainly around a full book as I > >>>>>>> have > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> pitch 9 - 14 chapters. He did say they are trying to move away > >>> from > >>>>>>> generic > >>>>>>>> platform books so I think pitching it in the style of a look at > >>> all > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> main components and heavy on the real world how-to and use cases > >>>>>>> would be > >>>>>>>> the way I'm tending to go along with a load of stuff on the value > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>> metadata etc. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> We discussed use case ideas and I went over some of the crazy NASA > >>>>>>> stuff > >>>>>>>> which he said I should include and also a bunch of real world use > >>>>>>>> cases(smart meters/regulatory compliance application and stuff > >>>>> from my > >>>>>>> day > >>>>>>>> job), but of course, you lot don't live in the real world so > >>> you'll > >>>>>>> have > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> leave that to me ;) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 1.0 I'm sure it will come out during the time we would spend > >>>>>>> writing a > >>>>>>>> book. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'll come back with a draft toc tonight or tomorrow and those > >>>>>>> interested > >>>>>>>> can add their 10 cents. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tom > >>>>>>>> On 20 May 2015 18:26, "Lewis John Mcgibbney" > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Spoke to Tom White a while ago @ApacheCon about this very topic > >>>>> folks > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>> one interesting outcome. > >>>>>>>>> Many publishers (I don't know about Manning, however Chris will > >>>>>>> likely > >>>>>>>>> know) are interested in Microbooks or picket guides as well. > >>>>>>>>> An example is the following > >>>>>>>>> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007430.do > >>>>>>>>> I don't know if this fits for something like OODT but you guys > >>> can > >>>>>>>>> consider. > >>>>>>>>> Lewis > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Chris Mattmann < > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Mike. I don’t think 1.0 is required > >>>>>>>>>> *before* writing the book, but can happen > >>>>>>>>>> while the book is going on (and be pushed in > >>>>>>>>>> many cases by the book!) :) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We had the same scenario with Tika in Action. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>> Chris > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------ > >>>>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: Michael Starch <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM > >>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I am definitely up for this. Are we going to push for an > >>>>> OODT-1.0 > >>>>>>>>>>> "polished" released before we write a book? There seem to be > >>> a > >>>>>>> lot > >>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>>>>> nice features in the pipe, which will affect the content of a > >>>>>>> book. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Regardless, I believe the following may be helpful for the > >>>>> book. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> - Setting Up OODT > >>>>>>>>>>> - Major OODT Components > >>>>>>>>>>> - Extending OODT > >>>>>>>>>>> - OODT in Operations > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -Michael > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Freeborn, Dana J (398G) < > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tom, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> This is great. I would be happy to contribute to the book > >>>>> if my > >>>>>>>>> level > >>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>> experience with OODT (which is high) is helpful. It's not > >>>>>>> clear to > >>>>>>>>> me > >>>>>>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>>>> focus for the book, so you'll just have to tap me if I can > >>>>>>>>> contribute. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul and Chris will know if I do. Otherwise, I will cheer > >>> on > >>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>>>> efforts. :-) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dana > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Tom Barber > >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > >>> < > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:02 AM > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: OODT book proposal > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I was on the phone to Manning today about an OODT book that > >>>>> me, > >>>>>>> Chris > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Starch mulled over in Texas. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I've been tasked with coming up with a TOC as the proposal > >>> so > >>>>>>> I'll > >>>>>>>>> knock > >>>>>>>>>>>> something together and share it later in the week, but on > >>>>> this > >>>>>>> topic. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a) Does anyone have anything they'd especially like to see > >>>>> in an > >>>>>>> OODT > >>>>>>>>>>>> book? > >>>>>>>>>>>> b) Does anyone want to help donate some hours writing a bit > >>>>> of > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> book > >>>>>>>>>>>> (won't be any time soon and takes months so don't worry > >>> about > >>>>>>> it, > >>>>>>>>> and I > >>>>>>>>>>>> wont hold you to it, just looking for interest) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> *Lewis* > >> >
