Okay guys Here's my plan,
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dGVf0j25WzXZCyTyuX9aMmmQ06yAPLOFtuTFZe-0aXk/edit?usp=sharing Here's the TOC, manning thought it was 2 -4 weeks per chapter and will take 12ish months from start to finish. I'm going to publish on leanpub and write the book on github under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 so its open but does hopefully prevent other publishers picking it up and just publishing for their own gains. https://github.com/buggtb/oodt_book Leanpub allow me to set a min and recommended price, and also assign royalties to authors. My plan is this, basically spit the royalties into 20, it has 14 chapters and will need editing, so I'll split the royalties evenly by chapters wrote and if you didn't write anything but did some editing, who was involved in the editing. So with 12 months you've got plenty of time to write/volunteer, let me know if you want to help. Also because its Leanpub and its open I'll be distributing plenty of previews to the ML for people to skim through for me. Cheers Tom On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> wrote: > I’d of course be happy to help. > > — > Chris Mattmann > chris.mattm...@gmail.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> > Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> > Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 7:52 AM > To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> > Subject: Re: OODT book proposal > > >I'd also be interested in writing the draft in markdown storing it on > >github and using an open license to create it if people think that's a > >good > >idea. Although I'm wary of packt just running off with it. > >On 27 Aug 2015 4:41 pm, "Tom Barber" <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> wrote: > > > >> Hi chaps and chapesses, > >> > >> Wiley don't know a good idea when they see one and turned down our book > >> proposal, booo. The good thing is in the process they have helped us > >>write > >> the TOC and indicate standard timeframes for writing the chapters. So I > >> would like to pursue this idea anyway, yay. > >> > >> My plan is to self publish using leanpub, because I think it will be > >> easier for me personally, but also gives us flexibility with the book > >>and > >> saves us selling our souls to Pact or dealing with the other publishing > >> houses on what is quite a specific subject matter. Similarly a paper > >> publisher might pick it up down the line or we can create our own print > >>run > >> if there is a demand. > >> > >> Anyway, those who said they might be interested in helping with the > >>book, > >> are you still interested? If so let me know and we'll sort it out, if > >>we go > >> the self publishing route we need to figure out how much the > >> min/recommended price is and how we split whatever minuscule sum we > >>make. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Will do chief > >>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Chris Mattmann > >>><chris.mattm...@gmail.com > >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> I think you should re-engage him - please keep the > >>>> momentum going feel free to CC me and I’ll help. > >>>> > >>>> — > >>>> Chris Mattmann > >>>> chris.mattm...@gmail.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> > >>>> Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> > >>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM > >>>> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org> > >>>> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal > >>>> > >>>> >I went through a bunch of proposal writing with the guy, then he just > >>>> >disappeared so I guess he got bored. > >>>> > > >>>> >On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < > >>>> >chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> >> Hey Tom - where are we at on the book? did you move forward with > >>>>it? > >>>> >> Cheers > >>>> >> > >>>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > >>>> >> Chief Architect > >>>> >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) > >>>> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > >>>> >> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 > >>>> >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > >>>> >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > >>>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>> >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > >>>> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > >>>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>>> >> From: Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> > >>>> >> Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org> > >>>> >> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:38 AM > >>>> >> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org> > >>>> >> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >Thanks Chris. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >Eva, I think we can probably include that stuff within one of the > >>>> >>existing > >>>> >> >tutorial sections as your ideas aren't too crazy ;) > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >Tom > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < > >>>> >> >chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >> you have to have a chapter on NASA earth science missions :) > >>>> >> >> I added it..good luck! > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> ________________________________________ > >>>> >> >> From: Tom Barber [tom.bar...@meteorite.bi] > >>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:52 AM > >>>> >> >> To: dev@oodt.apache.org > >>>> >> >> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> Alright chaps this is pretty last minute as I have to chat to > >>>>the > >>>> guy > >>>> >> >>from > >>>> >> >> Manning tomorrow so if anyone has 5 minutes, can you scan: > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > >>>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dGVf0j25WzXZCyTyuX9aMmmQ06yAPLOFtuT > >>>>FZ > >>>> >> >>e-0aXk/edit?usp=sharing > >>>> >> >> and add anything you think is missing. The link is open to all > >>>>so > >>>> you > >>>> >> >> should be able to add/change entries, just italicise them or > >>>> >>something > >>>> >> >>so I > >>>> >> >> can spot them. > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> Thanks > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> Tom > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Tom Barber < > >>>> tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> > >>>> >> >> wrote: > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > Thanks for the feedback guys. > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > The chat I had with the chap was certainly around a full book > >>>>as > >>>> I > >>>> >> >>have > >>>> >> >> to > >>>> >> >> > pitch 9 - 14 chapters. He did say they are trying to move away > >>>> from > >>>> >> >> generic > >>>> >> >> > platform books so I think pitching it in the style of a look > >>>>at > >>>> all > >>>> >> >>the > >>>> >> >> > main components and heavy on the real world how-to and use > >>>>cases > >>>> >> >>would be > >>>> >> >> > the way I'm tending to go along with a load of stuff on the > >>>>value > >>>> >>of > >>>> >> >> > metadata etc. > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > We discussed use case ideas and I went over some of the crazy > >>>> NASA > >>>> >> >>stuff > >>>> >> >> > which he said I should include and also a bunch of real world > >>>>use > >>>> >> >> > cases(smart meters/regulatory compliance application and stuff > >>>> >>from my > >>>> >> >> day > >>>> >> >> > job), but of course, you lot don't live in the real world so > >>>> you'll > >>>> >> >>have > >>>> >> >> to > >>>> >> >> > leave that to me ;) > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > On 1.0 I'm sure it will come out during the time we would > >>>>spend > >>>> >> >>writing a > >>>> >> >> > book. > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > I'll come back with a draft toc tonight or tomorrow and those > >>>> >> >>interested > >>>> >> >> > can add their 10 cents. > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > Tom > >>>> >> >> > On 20 May 2015 18:26, "Lewis John Mcgibbney" > >>>> >> >><lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> > >>>> >> >> > wrote: > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> Spoke to Tom White a while ago @ApacheCon about this very > >>>>topic > >>>> >>folks > >>>> >> >> with > >>>> >> >> >> one interesting outcome. > >>>> >> >> >> Many publishers (I don't know about Manning, however Chris > >>>>will > >>>> >> >>likely > >>>> >> >> >> know) are interested in Microbooks or picket guides as well. > >>>> >> >> >> An example is the following > >>>> >> >> >> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007430.do > >>>> >> >> >> I don't know if this fits for something like OODT but you > >>>>guys > >>>> can > >>>> >> >> >> consider. > >>>> >> >> >> Lewis > >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Chris Mattmann < > >>>> >> >> >> chris.mattm...@gmail.com> > >>>> >> >> >> wrote: > >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> > Thanks Mike. I don’t think 1.0 is required > >>>> >> >> >> > *before* writing the book, but can happen > >>>> >> >> >> > while the book is going on (and be pushed in > >>>> >> >> >> > many cases by the book!) :) > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > We had the same scenario with Tika in Action. > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > Cheers, > >>>> >> >> >> > Chris > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > ------------------------ > >>>> >> >> >> > Chris Mattmann > >>>> >> >> >> > chris.mattm...@gmail.com > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >>>> >> >> >> > From: Michael Starch <starc...@umich.edu> > >>>> >> >> >> > Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> > >>>> >> >> >> > Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM > >>>> >> >> >> > To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> > >>>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: OODT book proposal > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > >I am definitely up for this. Are we going to push for an > >>>> >>OODT-1.0 > >>>> >> >> >> > >"polished" released before we write a book? There seem to > >>>> be a > >>>> >> >>lot > >>>> >> >> of > >>>> >> >> >> > >very > >>>> >> >> >> > >nice features in the pipe, which will affect the content > >>>>of a > >>>> >> >>book. > >>>> >> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> >> > >Regardless, I believe the following may be helpful for the > >>>> >>book. > >>>> >> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> >> > > - Setting Up OODT > >>>> >> >> >> > > - Major OODT Components > >>>> >> >> >> > > - Extending OODT > >>>> >> >> >> > > - OODT in Operations > >>>> >> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> >> > >-Michael > >>>> >> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> >> > >On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Freeborn, Dana J (398G) < > >>>> >> >> >> > >dana.j.freeb...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >>>> >> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Hi Tom, > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> This is great. I would be happy to contribute to the > >>>>book > >>>> >>if my > >>>> >> >> >> level > >>>> >> >> >> > >>of > >>>> >> >> >> > >> experience with OODT (which is high) is helpful. It's > >>>>not > >>>> >> >>clear to > >>>> >> >> >> me > >>>> >> >> >> > >>your > >>>> >> >> >> > >> focus for the book, so you'll just have to tap me if I > >>>>can > >>>> >> >> >> contribute. > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Paul and Chris will know if I do. Otherwise, I will > >>>>cheer > >>>> on > >>>> >> >>your > >>>> >> >> >> > >> efforts. :-) > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Thanks, > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Dana > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> From: Tom Barber > >>>> >> >> >> > >><tom.bar...@meteorite.bi<mailto:tom.bar...@meteorite.bi > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Reply-To: > >>>>"dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>" > >>>> < > >>>> >> >> >> > >> dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:02 AM > >>>> >> >> >> > >> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>" > >>>> >> >> >> > >><dev@oodt.apache.org > >>>> >> >> >> > >> <mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Subject: OODT book proposal > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Hi guys, > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> I was on the phone to Manning today about an OODT book > >>>>that > >>>> >>me, > >>>> >> >> Chris > >>>> >> >> >> > >>and > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Mike Starch mulled over in Texas. > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> I've been tasked with coming up with a TOC as the > >>>>proposal > >>>> so > >>>> >> >>I'll > >>>> >> >> >> knock > >>>> >> >> >> > >> something together and share it later in the week, but > >>>>on > >>>> >>this > >>>> >> >> topic. > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> a) Does anyone have anything they'd especially like to > >>>>see > >>>> >>in an > >>>> >> >> OODT > >>>> >> >> >> > >>book? > >>>> >> >> >> > >> b) Does anyone want to help donate some hours writing a > >>>>bit > >>>> >>of > >>>> >> >>the > >>>> >> >> >> book > >>>> >> >> >> > >> (won't be any time soon and takes months so don't worry > >>>> about > >>>> >> >>it, > >>>> >> >> >> and I > >>>> >> >> >> > >> wont hold you to it, just looking for interest) > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> Tom > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> -- > >>>> >> >> >> *Lewis* > >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > >
