I'd also be interested in writing the draft in markdown storing it on github and using an open license to create it if people think that's a good idea. Although I'm wary of packt just running off with it. On 27 Aug 2015 4:41 pm, "Tom Barber" <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> wrote:
> Hi chaps and chapesses, > > Wiley don't know a good idea when they see one and turned down our book > proposal, booo. The good thing is in the process they have helped us write > the TOC and indicate standard timeframes for writing the chapters. So I > would like to pursue this idea anyway, yay. > > My plan is to self publish using leanpub, because I think it will be > easier for me personally, but also gives us flexibility with the book and > saves us selling our souls to Pact or dealing with the other publishing > houses on what is quite a specific subject matter. Similarly a paper > publisher might pick it up down the line or we can create our own print run > if there is a demand. > > Anyway, those who said they might be interested in helping with the book, > are you still interested? If so let me know and we'll sort it out, if we go > the self publishing route we need to figure out how much the > min/recommended price is and how we split whatever minuscule sum we make. > > Regards, > > Tom > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> > wrote: > >> Will do chief >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Chris Mattmann <chris.mattm...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> I think you should re-engage him - please keep the >>> momentum going feel free to CC me and I’ll help. >>> >>> — >>> Chris Mattmann >>> chris.mattm...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> >>> Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> >>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM >>> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org> >>> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal >>> >>> >I went through a bunch of proposal writing with the guy, then he just >>> >disappeared so I guess he got bored. >>> > >>> >On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < >>> >chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hey Tom - where are we at on the book? did you move forward with it? >>> >> Cheers >>> >> >>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> >> Chief Architect >>> >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >>> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> >> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >>> >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>> >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >>> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Tom Barber <tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> >>> >> Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org> >>> >> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:38 AM >>> >> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org> >>> >> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal >>> >> >>> >> >Thanks Chris. >>> >> > >>> >> >Eva, I think we can probably include that stuff within one of the >>> >>existing >>> >> >tutorial sections as your ideas aren't too crazy ;) >>> >> > >>> >> >Tom >>> >> > >>> >> >On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < >>> >> >chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> you have to have a chapter on NASA earth science missions :) >>> >> >> I added it..good luck! >>> >> >> >>> >> >> ________________________________________ >>> >> >> From: Tom Barber [tom.bar...@meteorite.bi] >>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:52 AM >>> >> >> To: dev@oodt.apache.org >>> >> >> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Alright chaps this is pretty last minute as I have to chat to the >>> guy >>> >> >>from >>> >> >> Manning tomorrow so if anyone has 5 minutes, can you scan: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dGVf0j25WzXZCyTyuX9aMmmQ06yAPLOFtuTFZ >>> >> >>e-0aXk/edit?usp=sharing >>> >> >> and add anything you think is missing. The link is open to all so >>> you >>> >> >> should be able to add/change entries, just italicise them or >>> >>something >>> >> >>so I >>> >> >> can spot them. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Thanks >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Tom >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Tom Barber < >>> tom.bar...@meteorite.bi> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > Thanks for the feedback guys. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > The chat I had with the chap was certainly around a full book as >>> I >>> >> >>have >>> >> >> to >>> >> >> > pitch 9 - 14 chapters. He did say they are trying to move away >>> from >>> >> >> generic >>> >> >> > platform books so I think pitching it in the style of a look at >>> all >>> >> >>the >>> >> >> > main components and heavy on the real world how-to and use cases >>> >> >>would be >>> >> >> > the way I'm tending to go along with a load of stuff on the value >>> >>of >>> >> >> > metadata etc. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > We discussed use case ideas and I went over some of the crazy >>> NASA >>> >> >>stuff >>> >> >> > which he said I should include and also a bunch of real world use >>> >> >> > cases(smart meters/regulatory compliance application and stuff >>> >>from my >>> >> >> day >>> >> >> > job), but of course, you lot don't live in the real world so >>> you'll >>> >> >>have >>> >> >> to >>> >> >> > leave that to me ;) >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > On 1.0 I'm sure it will come out during the time we would spend >>> >> >>writing a >>> >> >> > book. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > I'll come back with a draft toc tonight or tomorrow and those >>> >> >>interested >>> >> >> > can add their 10 cents. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Tom >>> >> >> > On 20 May 2015 18:26, "Lewis John Mcgibbney" >>> >> >><lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> Spoke to Tom White a while ago @ApacheCon about this very topic >>> >>folks >>> >> >> with >>> >> >> >> one interesting outcome. >>> >> >> >> Many publishers (I don't know about Manning, however Chris will >>> >> >>likely >>> >> >> >> know) are interested in Microbooks or picket guides as well. >>> >> >> >> An example is the following >>> >> >> >> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007430.do >>> >> >> >> I don't know if this fits for something like OODT but you guys >>> can >>> >> >> >> consider. >>> >> >> >> Lewis >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Chris Mattmann < >>> >> >> >> chris.mattm...@gmail.com> >>> >> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Thanks Mike. I don’t think 1.0 is required >>> >> >> >> > *before* writing the book, but can happen >>> >> >> >> > while the book is going on (and be pushed in >>> >> >> >> > many cases by the book!) :) >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > We had the same scenario with Tika in Action. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > Cheers, >>> >> >> >> > Chris >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > ------------------------ >>> >> >> >> > Chris Mattmann >>> >> >> >> > chris.mattm...@gmail.com >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >>> >> >> >> > From: Michael Starch <starc...@umich.edu> >>> >> >> >> > Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> >>> >> >> >> > Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM >>> >> >> >> > To: <dev@oodt.apache.org> >>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: OODT book proposal >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >I am definitely up for this. Are we going to push for an >>> >>OODT-1.0 >>> >> >> >> > >"polished" released before we write a book? There seem to >>> be a >>> >> >>lot >>> >> >> of >>> >> >> >> > >very >>> >> >> >> > >nice features in the pipe, which will affect the content of a >>> >> >>book. >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > >Regardless, I believe the following may be helpful for the >>> >>book. >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > > - Setting Up OODT >>> >> >> >> > > - Major OODT Components >>> >> >> >> > > - Extending OODT >>> >> >> >> > > - OODT in Operations >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > >-Michael >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > >On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Freeborn, Dana J (398G) < >>> >> >> >> > >dana.j.freeb...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > >> Hi Tom, >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> This is great. I would be happy to contribute to the book >>> >>if my >>> >> >> >> level >>> >> >> >> > >>of >>> >> >> >> > >> experience with OODT (which is high) is helpful. It's not >>> >> >>clear to >>> >> >> >> me >>> >> >> >> > >>your >>> >> >> >> > >> focus for the book, so you'll just have to tap me if I can >>> >> >> >> contribute. >>> >> >> >> > >> Paul and Chris will know if I do. Otherwise, I will cheer >>> on >>> >> >>your >>> >> >> >> > >> efforts. :-) >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> Thanks, >>> >> >> >> > >> Dana >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> From: Tom Barber >>> >> >> >> > >><tom.bar...@meteorite.bi<mailto:tom.bar...@meteorite.bi>> >>> >> >> >> > >> Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>" >>> < >>> >> >> >> > >> dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>> >>> >> >> >> > >> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:02 AM >>> >> >> >> > >> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>" >>> >> >> >> > >><dev@oodt.apache.org >>> >> >> >> > >> <mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>> >>> >> >> >> > >> Subject: OODT book proposal >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> Hi guys, >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> I was on the phone to Manning today about an OODT book that >>> >>me, >>> >> >> Chris >>> >> >> >> > >>and >>> >> >> >> > >> Mike Starch mulled over in Texas. >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> I've been tasked with coming up with a TOC as the proposal >>> so >>> >> >>I'll >>> >> >> >> knock >>> >> >> >> > >> something together and share it later in the week, but on >>> >>this >>> >> >> topic. >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> a) Does anyone have anything they'd especially like to see >>> >>in an >>> >> >> OODT >>> >> >> >> > >>book? >>> >> >> >> > >> b) Does anyone want to help donate some hours writing a bit >>> >>of >>> >> >>the >>> >> >> >> book >>> >> >> >> > >> (won't be any time soon and takes months so don't worry >>> about >>> >> >>it, >>> >> >> >> and I >>> >> >> >> > >> wont hold you to it, just looking for interest) >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> Tom >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >> *Lewis* >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >
