Ok, so our concens is to disable those notifications. Anybody interested in those emails can subscribe to it on its own.
Sebastian Am 21.03.2013 23:45 schrieb "Maxim Solodovnik" <solomax...@gmail.com>: > OK, thanks > Haven't read this :( > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > I read Jim's concern below Sebastian's letter: > > > > > > 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <j...@apache.org> > > > > > IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, > > > a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for > > > external development, legal issues notwithstanding. > > -- > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > http://dataved.ru/ > > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > @Alexei I'm afraid you are talking to wider list .... > > > Could you please clarify what "As for Jim's concern"? > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > >> As for Jim's concern, I think commits can be redirected to > commits@list. > > >> -- > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >> http://dataved.ru/ > > >> +7 916 562 8095 > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > There is a flag in the mail notification to turn of diff's in those > > >> emails. > > >> > So theoretically those emails don't have to include not even code > > >> fragments > > >> > of GPL licensed code. > > >> > So those emails could become what they initially should have been: > > Some > > >> > simple notification of activity. > > >> > > > >> > We are actually also not interested in what exactly has changed or > > >> > archiving external activities. > > >> > If anybody is interested in those projects he can catch up with > those > > >> > involved there. > > >> > > > >> > All we are interested is a "heads up" there is something going on as > > we > > >> > provide integration APIs that 3th parties are using. > > >> > > > >> > There are also a number of more 3th party projects that send those > > pings. > > >> > Basically all projects hosted at apache-extras.org are configured > to > > >> send a > > >> > ping to our list when there was a SVN commit. > > >> > > > http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/search?q=openmeetings > > >> > > > >> > It is argueable if an Apache developer list is the right place to > have > > >> such > > >> > a "news aggregator" for activities around OpenMeetings. > > >> > There might be easy ways to resolve such a conflict. Possibly for > > >> example a > > >> > Google Group Mailing list. "openmeetings-apache-extras" or something > > like > > >> > that. It does in fact not make a difference, just another mailing > > list to > > >> > monitor :) > > >> > It is just a bit an imaginary line that we draw here from my point > of > > >> view. > > >> > > > >> > Sebastian > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <j...@apache.org> > > >> > > > >> >> IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, which is > > >> >> a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for > > >> >> external development, legal issues notwithstanding. > > >> >> > > >> >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > I would be uncomfortable as well. If project members want to > follow > > >> >> external projects that's great, but duplicating all of an external > > >> >> project's messages onto the public dev@ list is... not a best > > practice, > > >> >> to say the least. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Personally, I'd have to presume (for the average user) that > > everything > > >> >> coming from that other GPL licensed project is GPL. Thus, this > > seems to > > >> >> violate the principle of least surprise and the fact that GPL is > > >> Category > > >> >> X, which means that end users should be able to use Apache projects > > and > > >> >> products without having to worry that GPL code is included - either > > in > > >> the > > >> >> download, or in other places on our websites or mailing lists. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > - Shane > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On 3/19/2013 6:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > > >> >> >> It's come to my attention that the openmeetings project has > > recently > > >> >> >> subscribed their dev list to the commit messages of a Google > Code > > >> hosted > > >> >> >> project under the GPL. I asked why and was told " those updates > > are > > >> >> >> interesting for our integration API." There is some overlap in > > >> >> >> committers but the project communities do seem to be distinct > > other > > >> than > > >> >> >> this cross-posting of commits. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I'm quite uncomfortable about this as it means that GPL code is > > >> passing > > >> >> >> through our lists (and being archived) without any clear > > indication > > >> of > > >> >> >> its legal status. What I'm not sure about is whether my > > discomfort is > > >> >> >> because of an irrational fear of someone inadvertently using GPL > > code > > >> >> >> without knowing it or whether that is, in fact, a rational fear. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Advice please? > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Ross > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> -- > > >> >> >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > > >> >> >> Programme Leader (Open Development) > > >> >> >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscr...@apache.org > > >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-h...@apache.org > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscr...@apache.org > > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-h...@apache.org > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Sebastian Wagner > > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > WBR > > > Maxim aka solomax > > > > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax >
