great :) can you create one? And we will use it's email in all "extra projects"
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > just create a Google Group for example? > Anybody interested in those emails can subscribe to it. > > Sebastian > > > 2013/3/22 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > > > Maybe anybody knows how to create group email alias for free? > > something like: dev-om-apache-ext...@whatever.com? > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > I have updated all apache-extras projects (replace dev@ with my email > or > > > Sebastian's email) > > > except for (no adminitration rights) > > > > https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/openmeetings-atutor-plugin > > > https://code.google.com/p/red5phone/ > > > > > > @Sebastian can you update these two? > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:13 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> The OpenMeetings PMC agrees on disabling those notifications. > > >> Anybody interested in those emails can subscribe to it on its own. > > >> > > >> Sebastian > > >> Am 22.03.2013 05:34 schrieb "Luciano Resende" <luckbr1...@gmail.com>: > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:00 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > There is a flag in the mail notification to turn of diff's in > those > > >> > emails. > > >> > > So theoretically those emails don't have to include not even code > > >> > fragments > > >> > > of GPL licensed code. > > >> > > So those emails could become what they initially should have been: > > >> Some > > >> > > simple notification of activity. > > >> > > > > >> > > We are actually also not interested in what exactly has changed or > > >> > archiving > > >> > > external activities. > > >> > > If anybody is interested in those projects he can catch up with > > those > > >> > > involved there. > > >> > > > > >> > > All we are interested is a "heads up" there is something going on > as > > >> we > > >> > > provide integration APIs that 3th parties are using. > > >> > > > > >> > > There are also a number of more 3th party projects that send those > > >> pings. > > >> > > Basically all projects hosted at apache-extras.org are configured > > to > > >> > send a > > >> > > ping to our list when there was a SVN commit. > > >> > > > > >> > > http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/search?q=openmeetings > > >> > > > > >> > > It is argueable if an Apache developer list is the right place to > > have > > >> > such > > >> > > a "news aggregator" for activities around OpenMeetings. > > >> > > There might be easy ways to resolve such a conflict. Possibly for > > >> > example a > > >> > > Google Group Mailing list. "openmeetings-apache-extras" or > something > > >> like > > >> > > that. It does in fact not make a difference, just another mailing > > >> list to > > >> > > monitor :) > > >> > > It is just a bit an imaginary line that we draw here from my point > > of > > >> > view. > > >> > > > > >> > > Sebastian > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <j...@apache.org> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, which is > > >> > >> a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for > > >> > >> external development, legal issues notwithstanding. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > I would be uncomfortable as well. If project members want to > > follow > > >> > >> > external projects that's great, but duplicating all of an > > external > > >> > project's > > >> > >> > messages onto the public dev@ list is... not a best practice, > to > > >> say > > >> > the > > >> > >> > least. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Personally, I'd have to presume (for the average user) that > > >> everything > > >> > >> > coming from that other GPL licensed project is GPL. Thus, this > > >> seems > > >> > to > > >> > >> > violate the principle of least surprise and the fact that GPL > is > > >> > Category X, > > >> > >> > which means that end users should be able to use Apache > projects > > >> and > > >> > >> > products without having to worry that GPL code is included - > > either > > >> > in the > > >> > >> > download, or in other places on our websites or mailing lists. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > - Shane > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > On 3/19/2013 6:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > > >> > >> >> It's come to my attention that the openmeetings project has > > >> recently > > >> > >> >> subscribed their dev list to the commit messages of a Google > > Code > > >> > >> >> hosted > > >> > >> >> project under the GPL. I asked why and was told " those > updates > > >> are > > >> > >> >> interesting for our integration API." There is some overlap in > > >> > >> >> committers but the project communities do seem to be distinct > > >> other > > >> > >> >> than > > >> > >> >> this cross-posting of commits. > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> I'm quite uncomfortable about this as it means that GPL code > is > > >> > passing > > >> > >> >> through our lists (and being archived) without any clear > > >> indication > > >> > of > > >> > >> >> its legal status. What I'm not sure about is whether my > > >> discomfort is > > >> > >> >> because of an irrational fear of someone inadvertently using > GPL > > >> code > > >> > >> >> without knowing it or whether that is, in fact, a rational > fear. > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> Advice please? > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> Ross > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> -- > > >> > >> >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > > >> > >> >> Programme Leader (Open Development) > > >> > >> >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > We have had a similar discussion in the ComDev related to Apache > > >> > Extras [1], and the consensus at that time was that external > projects, > > >> > particular the ones that are not compatible with AL2, should be > > >> > managed separately, which means that we should not encourage PMCs to > > >> > have their official mailing lists receiving e-mails from other > > >> > non-Apache GPL projects. If individuals are interested on what's > going > > >> > on with external projects, they should subscribe to these projects > > >> > mailing list as an individual. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCALvzYd-h4Q%3DcTEgGqCNEEninhVose8uiGt2gTK22n9cMr_kVyg%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Luciano Resende > > >> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende > > >> > http://twitter.com/lresende1975 > > >> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > > >> > > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscr...@apache.org > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-h...@apache.org > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > WBR > > > Maxim aka solomax > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > WBR > > Maxim aka solomax > > > > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > seba.wag...@gmail.com > -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
