just create a Google Group for example? Anybody interested in those emails can subscribe to it.
Sebastian 2013/3/22 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > Maybe anybody knows how to create group email alias for free? > something like: dev-om-apache-ext...@whatever.com? > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > I have updated all apache-extras projects (replace dev@ with my email or > > Sebastian's email) > > except for (no adminitration rights) > > https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/openmeetings-atutor-plugin > > https://code.google.com/p/red5phone/ > > > > @Sebastian can you update these two? > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:13 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> The OpenMeetings PMC agrees on disabling those notifications. > >> Anybody interested in those emails can subscribe to it on its own. > >> > >> Sebastian > >> Am 22.03.2013 05:34 schrieb "Luciano Resende" <luckbr1...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:00 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com > >> > <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > There is a flag in the mail notification to turn of diff's in those > >> > emails. > >> > > So theoretically those emails don't have to include not even code > >> > fragments > >> > > of GPL licensed code. > >> > > So those emails could become what they initially should have been: > >> Some > >> > > simple notification of activity. > >> > > > >> > > We are actually also not interested in what exactly has changed or > >> > archiving > >> > > external activities. > >> > > If anybody is interested in those projects he can catch up with > those > >> > > involved there. > >> > > > >> > > All we are interested is a "heads up" there is something going on as > >> we > >> > > provide integration APIs that 3th parties are using. > >> > > > >> > > There are also a number of more 3th party projects that send those > >> pings. > >> > > Basically all projects hosted at apache-extras.org are configured > to > >> > send a > >> > > ping to our list when there was a SVN commit. > >> > > > >> > http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/search?q=openmeetings > >> > > > >> > > It is argueable if an Apache developer list is the right place to > have > >> > such > >> > > a "news aggregator" for activities around OpenMeetings. > >> > > There might be easy ways to resolve such a conflict. Possibly for > >> > example a > >> > > Google Group Mailing list. "openmeetings-apache-extras" or something > >> like > >> > > that. It does in fact not make a difference, just another mailing > >> list to > >> > > monitor :) > >> > > It is just a bit an imaginary line that we draw here from my point > of > >> > view. > >> > > > >> > > Sebastian > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <j...@apache.org> > >> > >> > >> > >> IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, which is > >> > >> a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for > >> > >> external development, legal issues notwithstanding. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > I would be uncomfortable as well. If project members want to > follow > >> > >> > external projects that's great, but duplicating all of an > external > >> > project's > >> > >> > messages onto the public dev@ list is... not a best practice, to > >> say > >> > the > >> > >> > least. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Personally, I'd have to presume (for the average user) that > >> everything > >> > >> > coming from that other GPL licensed project is GPL. Thus, this > >> seems > >> > to > >> > >> > violate the principle of least surprise and the fact that GPL is > >> > Category X, > >> > >> > which means that end users should be able to use Apache projects > >> and > >> > >> > products without having to worry that GPL code is included - > either > >> > in the > >> > >> > download, or in other places on our websites or mailing lists. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > - Shane > >> > >> > > >> > >> > On 3/19/2013 6:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > >> > >> >> It's come to my attention that the openmeetings project has > >> recently > >> > >> >> subscribed their dev list to the commit messages of a Google > Code > >> > >> >> hosted > >> > >> >> project under the GPL. I asked why and was told " those updates > >> are > >> > >> >> interesting for our integration API." There is some overlap in > >> > >> >> committers but the project communities do seem to be distinct > >> other > >> > >> >> than > >> > >> >> this cross-posting of commits. > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> I'm quite uncomfortable about this as it means that GPL code is > >> > passing > >> > >> >> through our lists (and being archived) without any clear > >> indication > >> > of > >> > >> >> its legal status. What I'm not sure about is whether my > >> discomfort is > >> > >> >> because of an irrational fear of someone inadvertently using GPL > >> code > >> > >> >> without knowing it or whether that is, in fact, a rational fear. > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> Advice please? > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> Ross > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> -- > >> > >> >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > >> > >> >> Programme Leader (Open Development) > >> > >> >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > We have had a similar discussion in the ComDev related to Apache > >> > Extras [1], and the consensus at that time was that external projects, > >> > particular the ones that are not compatible with AL2, should be > >> > managed separately, which means that we should not encourage PMCs to > >> > have their official mailing lists receiving e-mails from other > >> > non-Apache GPL projects. If individuals are interested on what's going > >> > on with external projects, they should subscribe to these projects > >> > mailing list as an individual. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCALvzYd-h4Q%3DcTEgGqCNEEninhVose8uiGt2gTK22n9cMr_kVyg%40mail.gmail.com%3E > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Luciano Resende > >> > http://people.apache.org/~lresende > >> > http://twitter.com/lresende1975 > >> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscr...@apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-h...@apache.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > WBR > > Maxim aka solomax > > > > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax > -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com
