I have updated all apache-extras projects (replace dev@ with my email or Sebastian's email) except for (no adminitration rights) https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/openmeetings-atutor-plugin https://code.google.com/p/red5phone/
@Sebastian can you update these two? On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:13 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > The OpenMeetings PMC agrees on disabling those notifications. > Anybody interested in those emails can subscribe to it on its own. > > Sebastian > Am 22.03.2013 05:34 schrieb "Luciano Resende" <luckbr1...@gmail.com>: > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:00 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > There is a flag in the mail notification to turn of diff's in those > > emails. > > > So theoretically those emails don't have to include not even code > > fragments > > > of GPL licensed code. > > > So those emails could become what they initially should have been: Some > > > simple notification of activity. > > > > > > We are actually also not interested in what exactly has changed or > > archiving > > > external activities. > > > If anybody is interested in those projects he can catch up with those > > > involved there. > > > > > > All we are interested is a "heads up" there is something going on as we > > > provide integration APIs that 3th parties are using. > > > > > > There are also a number of more 3th party projects that send those > pings. > > > Basically all projects hosted at apache-extras.org are configured to > > send a > > > ping to our list when there was a SVN commit. > > > > http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/search?q=openmeetings > > > > > > It is argueable if an Apache developer list is the right place to have > > such > > > a "news aggregator" for activities around OpenMeetings. > > > There might be easy ways to resolve such a conflict. Possibly for > > example a > > > Google Group Mailing list. "openmeetings-apache-extras" or something > like > > > that. It does in fact not make a difference, just another mailing list > to > > > monitor :) > > > It is just a bit an imaginary line that we draw here from my point of > > view. > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <j...@apache.org> > > >> > > >> IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, which is > > >> a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for > > >> external development, legal issues notwithstanding. > > >> > > >> On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > I would be uncomfortable as well. If project members want to follow > > >> > external projects that's great, but duplicating all of an external > > project's > > >> > messages onto the public dev@ list is... not a best practice, to > say > > the > > >> > least. > > >> > > > >> > Personally, I'd have to presume (for the average user) that > everything > > >> > coming from that other GPL licensed project is GPL. Thus, this > seems > > to > > >> > violate the principle of least surprise and the fact that GPL is > > Category X, > > >> > which means that end users should be able to use Apache projects and > > >> > products without having to worry that GPL code is included - either > > in the > > >> > download, or in other places on our websites or mailing lists. > > >> > > > >> > - Shane > > >> > > > >> > On 3/19/2013 6:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > > >> >> It's come to my attention that the openmeetings project has > recently > > >> >> subscribed their dev list to the commit messages of a Google Code > > >> >> hosted > > >> >> project under the GPL. I asked why and was told " those updates are > > >> >> interesting for our integration API." There is some overlap in > > >> >> committers but the project communities do seem to be distinct other > > >> >> than > > >> >> this cross-posting of commits. > > >> >> > > >> >> I'm quite uncomfortable about this as it means that GPL code is > > passing > > >> >> through our lists (and being archived) without any clear indication > > of > > >> >> its legal status. What I'm not sure about is whether my discomfort > is > > >> >> because of an irrational fear of someone inadvertently using GPL > code > > >> >> without knowing it or whether that is, in fact, a rational fear. > > >> >> > > >> >> Advice please? > > >> >> > > >> >> Ross > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > > >> >> Programme Leader (Open Development) > > >> >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > We have had a similar discussion in the ComDev related to Apache > > Extras [1], and the consensus at that time was that external projects, > > particular the ones that are not compatible with AL2, should be > > managed separately, which means that we should not encourage PMCs to > > have their official mailing lists receiving e-mails from other > > non-Apache GPL projects. If individuals are interested on what's going > > on with external projects, they should subscribe to these projects > > mailing list as an individual. > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCALvzYd-h4Q%3DcTEgGqCNEEninhVose8uiGt2gTK22n9cMr_kVyg%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > > > -- > > Luciano Resende > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975 > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscr...@apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-h...@apache.org > > > > > -- WBR Maxim aka solomax