On 4 February 2013 15:40, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jani,
>
> Thanks for the MWiki work. I think that there are several discussions
> needed in order to start the process of converting CWiki to MWiki and
> "modernize" MWiki.
>
> Forgive me if I am ignorant of work that may be done already.
>
> Discussions could be:
>
> 1. Agreement on the Taxonomy of Categories.
>
> 2. Reorganize the main MWiki page.
>
> 3. Retirement strategy with redirects from important old pages that are
> external link targets.
>
> 4. CWiki may serve a purpose as an idea scratch pad as it is very easy to
> use (at least for me). Limit the migration away from it to important
> documentation like build instructions. The separation may prove useful.
>

Thx. for outlining a set of discussions, I highly agree this agenda.

Rgds 4) Personally I have no problem with 2 wikis that have a clear
seperation, what I find irritating is that the same type of information is
in both wikis.


> BTW - Have we solved the registration problem for MWiki?
>

I am not sure what you mean ? If it is "create account" it should be solved
(it took a while before I got aware of the problem).


>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:51 AM, janI <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > We have just completed the last optimization of wiki.o.o, which means
> that
> > it has entered maintenance mode.
> >
> > There is one outstanding bugzilla issue, which will be implemented if we
> > can find a supported solution.
> >
> > Now would be a good time to think about the other things we have
> discussed
> > earlier:
> > - Move cwiki to mwiki.
> >   this has been discussed/decided earlier, but might need a positive
> > decision.
> >   I for one find it very confusing to look in 2 wikis for the same
> > information (e.g. build instructions)
> > - Mark outdated paged with category outdated, and symbol on page
> >  A lot of the information in wiki is outdated and superseeded by new
> > pages, its hard to find the correct info.
> >  If outpdated paged had the category "outdated" it would be easy to
> change
> > search to excluded these
> > - Put categories on all pages, and structure the pages
> >  Due to the very limited maintenance the page structure and catagory
> usage
> > seems very random.
> >
> > We can hopefully expect high traffic volume when we release 4.0, which
> > gives a natural timelimit when the wiki should be streamlined. Unless of
> > course, the community does not find it embarrasing to have text like:
> >
> > "Teams
> > This section is partly outdated. Visit Apache
> > OpenOffice<http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html>for
> > actual information."
> >
> > on the front page, highlighting the priority of maintaining the wiki.
> >
> > Doing the work needed is too much for one person, it requires a small
> team.
> > And based on my experience touching information can generate a lot of
> > feelings, so the team should preferable contain enough "old" volunteers
> to
> > guarantee that the changes are done historically correct.
> >
> > I will keep doing the running maintenance of the wiki2 server.
> >
> > Rgds
> > jan I.
>

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