On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RGB ES wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/6/11 Rob Weir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is sad that it has the usual misinformation:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was quite surprised to read it. At least, if a journalist had to
>>>> pick a
>>>>>>> recent blog post from the OpenOffice blog, the one about release
>>>> schedules
>>>>>>> is definitely less interesting than other recent ones...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should find the email of the publication's news editor and write a
>>>>>>>>>> polite yet firm complaint
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or just post a comment. Andre, did you try doing so? Maybe they will
>>>>>>> rectify some clear factual errors in the article. I strongly recommend
>>>> that
>>>>>>> you post your comments there and not only here on the list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the best strategy is to ignore the the FUD and push accurate and
>>>>>>>>> useful information onto our website.  That approach reaches more
>>>>>>>>> users, and is under our control.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1. Talking about sites like El Reg means promoting them, and
>>>> promotion
>>>>>>>> means more weight on search engines for those lies
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1, yes, it's untrue and insulting but our actions DO speak louder than
>>>>>> these words.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that the highly visible site is http://www.openoffice.org and not
>>>>>>> the blog; the site is linked to the blog only through a link that is
>>>> at the
>>>>>>> bottom of the page and, moreover, is hidden under a JavaScript layer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So something that we should do immediately is to create a simple block
>>>>>>> with the titles of our latest three blog posts (from the official
>>>> blog) and
>>>>>>> put it on the homepage. And keep it updated manually, at least when
>>>> it's
>>>>>>> worth doing so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A good idea! I too feel the blogs are a bit too submerged. Let's see
>>>> what
>>>>>> we can come up with for this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How about adding it to the top-nav, where we currently have:
>>>>>
>>>>> Product
>>>>> Download
>>>>> Support
>>>>> Extend
>>>>> Develop
>>>>> Focus Areas
>>>>> Native Language
>>>>>
>>>>> Put a new entry there for "News" or "Blog" and have that link to the
>>>> blog.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I went ahead and did this.  Easily reversible if we don't like it.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well...I would have preferred calling it something else besides "News"
>>> because now I think it's confused/associated with the left "News" items.
>>>
>>
>> Oh, good point.
>>
>>> When Andrea brought this up, I guess I was thinking he wanted actual Blog
>>> headlines listed/highlighted, but maybe the top nav bar is good if we come
>>> up with something a bit more "catchy".  But...I got nothin. :/
>>>
>>
>> The problem we have (and maybe this is not a problem but just a
>> different form of success) is that the blog is now updated quite
>> frequently, but the stories on the home page never seem to change.  So
>> if you want news then the best place to go is the blog.
>>
>> I wonder what would happen if we moved to a single column design with
>> no stories on the right, but just the current menu items, but centered
>> on the screen?  That might work better on small devices as well.
>
> Small boxes push the new div below the buttons div.
>>
>> Or, figure out how to get the news column to trigger off of the RSS
>> feed of the blog, like the ASF homepage does.  We discussed this once,
>> but never completely figured it out.
>
> The way to figure this out is to study how www.apache.org does this and 
> emulate it. We then setup the main page to republish itself every hour. We 
> need Infra's help for that.
>
>>
>> But short term, calling it "Blog" would be OK?
>
> Yes - and I would not have it be the leftmost topnav element. I would make it 
> third or fourth - on either side of "Support".
>

Done.

> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Putting it in the nav will give it visibility on most website (non-wiki)
>>>> pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That will give more visibility to the blog articles, for both users and
>>>>>>> journalists. Both categories are important. And some journalists will
>>>>>>> hopefully share my (personal, but probably not so personal) taste on
>>>> which
>>>>>>> are the posts to be featured!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>  Andrea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> What you believe and what you do are the same thing."
>>>>>>                             -- Leonard Peltier
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