I swear I am technically savvy, but I have not found an easy link to the materials you reference.
I start at the homepage - www.openoffice.org I click on "I want to participate in OpenOffice" link which takes me here: http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html I clink on the New Volunteer Orientation Modules <http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html> link which takes me here: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html I click on the Introduction to Development <http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html> link which takes me here: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html I click on the Building Guide <http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO> link which takes me here: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO That page has no instructions for how to build on Mac OS X, but it does have a link titled Step-by-Step Building Guide for Different Platforms <http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step> which of course looks very promising. But when you click on that link, it takes you here: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step And that page offers detailed instructions for Ubuntu and Windows, but has no links whatsoever to any materials regarding Mac OS X. When I click on the link that you provided, I see the requirements for Mac OS X and I see how to get started that is very helpful. But compare that to the LibreOffice materials. I google "LibreOffice on Mac OS X" and I get the following link: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnMac I go to that link and it has step by step instructions on what to do. I'm smart enough to be able to find what I am looking for, but I'm just saying that as a total newcomer to both projects LibreOffice made it much easier. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Roman Sausarnes <romansausar...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > As a newcomer to development who is looking for a way to get involved in > > one project or the other, I thought I would share my impressions. > > > > The LibreOffice website and development materials seem friendlier to > > newcomers. It is easier to navigate and find simple instructions for how > to > > get the code, set up a development environment, or contribute in other > > ways. I use a Mac, and almost right away I found a detailed set of > > instructions that was (relatively) current for how to build LO for the > > first time on my machine. > > > > The AOO website is confusing and disorganized for people approaching it > for > > the first time and some of the information is outdated. I still haven't > > found simple instructions for how to build on a Mac. I have found a set > of > > instructions but they are confusing, appear to be outdated, and suggest > > that I need to install older Xcode, etc., without any suggestions or > > resources on how to do it, if it is really necessary, etc. > > > > Can you please be more explicit on this. From our angle, we create modules > so that people could easily find the right information of the way they want > to contribute. Going to www.openoffice.org and selecting you want to > contribute will lead you to a series of tutorials on how to better get > involved. Development starts with building for different platforms, > including OSX. > > All in all is 4 clicks: > Homepage -> Contributing page -> Development -> Building -> OSX ( > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Building_on_MacOsX > ) > > The instructions are for 4.1 so they are pretty current. > > > > > > > I haven't given up on AOO, and part of me wants to figure out how to do > it > > and then write the instructions clearly for the next person who comes > > along, but you can understand how a person who is given two opportunities > > is tempted to choose the one that is easier to get started on (the hard > > work comes later - entry should be easy) and more clearly structured. > > > > Just my two cents. > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Chuck Davis <cjgun...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I've seen quite a number of new people show up here lately indicating > > > interest coming from someplace. If one out of 10 of them sticks and > > > becomes a regular contributor the project is in a very good position I > > > think. > > > > > > My observations regarding LO: > > > 1) They've copied some features from MS Office that make it equally > > > difficult to use....It's not as pleasant to use as AOO. It's very > > > unfortunate the distributions have adopted LO in lieu of AOO. > > > 2) Their constant AOO bashing is a real turn-off for me and I hope > > > others as well. I don't think I want their people in our camp. > > > 3) They seem to be very proud of getting rid of Java and replacing it > > > with Python. I've looked at Python a little and it seems to me any > > > language dependent on indentation rather than syntax is > > > just........dumb! There is nothing wrong with Java -- especially now > > > that OpenJDK is the reference implementation and is being worked on by > > > every major player except MS. > > > 4) LO seems to have major QC issues. The quality is definitely > > > several notches below where AOO rests in my experience. > > > > > > These are just my observations as a long time OpenOffice user. And > > > Apache has some very interesting related projects (i.e. ODF Toolkit) > > > that can propel ODF as a standard reporting framework as well as the > > > new project to read and write OOXML for document exchange. > > > > > > My advice: stay the course. Emphasize quality and dependability over > > > glitz. If developers are not attracted to AOO on those terms they're > > > not developers the project needs. Those of us in business just need a > > > tool to get our work done and it doesn't need to be fancy -- just > > > dependable. LO falls on it's face at this point. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 >
