On Sunday, December 7, 2014, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > There was quite a number of AOO meetings in Budapest, with different
> > constellasions of people.
> >
> > Of course no decisions were made, that needs to happen in here, but
> > expectations were set. Just to mention one, bring out a release fast,
> with
> > a few bug fixes and digital signing. Some of us was also asked if we
> would
> > give a hand under given circumstances.
> >
> > From my work with infra earlier this year we know that digital signing is
> > not a matter of programming, but merely a matter of release work,
> >
> > Maybe its just me, but it seems all of the above is forgotten, at least I
> > cannot see any mentions on this ML.
> >
>
> Regarding the next release. Of course, most of us have no idea what the
> discussion in Budapest actually entailed with respect to this, but the
> latest discussion  can be found from this link --
>
>  http://markmail.org/message/aehavvvhiz6les6q
>
> My take on the above is that a goal before the next release was to have a
> complete buildbot infrastructure in place at Apache to spin binaries from
> that rather than the previous process.
>
> We also received an update on this list from Andrea on some of the
> discussions with infra at ApacheConEU. See --
>
> http://markmail.org/message/6ymi35tajswcfsps


I was part of the infra discussions, which is why I promised to
(again) maintain the servers.


>
> With respect to CentOS 5, we need both a 32-bit and 64-bit on CentOS 5. Can
> you tell us anything about that?


There are no request for a  32bit cent-os 5, only for a 64bit.

I am a bit sceptic, "need" is a big word, we also needed the mac buildbot,
we have it, but its still not operational (infra delivered it some month
ago).

The cent-os 5 64bit will most likely come in a couple of weeks. It will be
setup with a dummy AOO user, since nobody have currently asked for access.


> We do need volunteers to help with the CentOS 5 builbot setups at some
> point once the VMs are established.


I think the same can be said about the mac buildbot.

The cent-vm was actually spinning about 6months ago, but was taken down for
several reasons.


>
> In summary, we have some tasks to do before springing into action on the
> next release.


We have waited for the better part of 2 years to get the buildbot system in
a better shape (see dates on jira tickets) so making that a requirement for
a release seems to be a perfect excuse to continue talking.

We could on the other hand, if we pulled together, bring out a windows
release in a couple of weeks, with digital signing, which would help a lot
of users.....and show that our project can still achieve something.

This is of course only my opinion and possibly a very lonely one.

rgds
jan i


>
> > I would have loved to see some of the things come to life, and wanted to
> > help. However life must go. on, and just waiting for the sake if waiting
> > does not seem like a sensible thing to do.
> >
> > My question is (the same as in budapest) do we want to get things moving
> > and who wants to make a difference ?
> >
> > AOO is a great project, please lets not kill it by silence and lack of
> > activiy....if YOU care time is right to help.
> >
> > just my opinion.
> > rgds
> > jan i
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "There's a bit of magic in everything,
>   and some loss to even things out."
>                             -- Lou Reed
>


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