On 08/05/2016 12:28 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
Branching off the part that is not about the Windows 4.1.2-patch1 [TESTING].

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From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 15:52
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows

Am 08/05/2016 12:26 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
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hmmm...well no zips for Mac, Linux32, or Linux 64 -- yet.

Should we get started on these?
it depends what we want that they should contain. The ZIP file for
Windows contains a LICENSE and NOTICE file as well as an ASC file for
the DLL. As it is only a patch IMHO we don't need to provide another
LICENSE and NOTICE file which is already available in the OpenOffice
installation. Also the ASC is not necessary as we provide it already
(together with MD5 and SHA256) for the whole ZIP file.
[orcmid]

I think there is a misunderstanding.  Two matters:

  1. The use of LICENSE is required by the ALv2 itself, and the ASF practice is 
to include NOTICE as well on binary distributions.  The patch qualifies, 
especially when it is moved to general distribution.  It is also easy and 
harmless to provide.

  2. The reason for preserving the .asc on the shared-library binary is because 
it authenticates with respect to who produced it and establishes that it has 
not been modified as supplied in the package (or as the result of some glitch 
in creation of the Zip).  It provides a level of accountability and, also, 
auditability.

Even though few people will check all of these, they remain possible to be 
checked.  Since this is a matter of security vulnerabilities and involves 
elevation of privilege to perform, I believe it is important to demonstrate 
diligence and care, so that users have confidence in this procedure to the 
extent they are comfortable.  Also, if it becomes necessary to troubleshoot a 
problem with these patch applications, we have the means to authenticate what 
they are using to ensure there are no counterfeits being offered to users.
That means that only the README and library file remains.

When the README for Windows keep its length then I don't want to copy
this on the dowload webpage. ;-)

So, when we put the README for all platforms in their ZIP files then we
can just put a pointer to it on the download webpage and thats it.
[orcmid]

Yes, that seems like a fine idea.  The README can be linked the same way the 
.md5, .sha256, and .asc are linked.

Also, the README may become simpler if we can link to some of the information 
and not have so much detail in the README text itself.  It might even be useful 
to have an .html README for that matter.  But that is all extra.  Right now I 
think we want to get into the testing and see how to smooth what we have.

PS: A friend of mine is looking into the MacOSX situation.  He points out that 
one can use the Finder to do the job without users having to use Terminal 
sessions.  I don't have further information at this time.

PPS: The inclusion of scripts that do the job is also worthy of consideration, 
perhaps making it unnecessary to build executables.  I will be looking at 
finding a .bat file that works safely for the Windows case.  That can make the 
instructions much shorter :).

To cut a long story short:
I would say yes for a ZIP file for every platform.
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Could we use a cross-platform installer like izpack [1]?

I started trying it out last weekend and it looks like it could do the job of running a rename script and copying in the library.

A few notes.

It can:
display a readme to explain what will happen.
display our license for acceptance.
run a script depending on platform.
Copy in files based on platform.

Requires Java on the machine to run installer.
Also the user need to be able to use a file chooser to find the AOO directory.

If so I will continue to pursue this but may need so help with the scripts and testing.

[1] http://izpack.org/

Thanks,
Carl

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