Ahh cool, thx. :) Am 19. Oktober 2017 13:03:04 MESZ schrieb Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org>: >In general, we are documenting our release process in >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release. > >We have a problem that the ASF itself documents the rules for voting on > >releases in two places: >http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval and >https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > >Those rules do not quite work for us. In practice, we treat a justified > >-1 from any community member as a veto. We put much more emphasis on >testing binaries than on building from source. I suppose in theory when > >we see a justified -1 all PMC members should change their votes to -1, >and change them back to +1 if and when the problem is resolved. > >On 10/19/2017 12:06 AM, Peter kovacs wrote: >> Have we documented our process somewhere. I am unsure. I think we >have at least discussed this already. >> All arguments sound so familiar. >> >> Am 19. Oktober 2017 02:35:29 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher ><dave2w...@comcast.net>: >>> >>>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Pedro Lino <pedro.l...@mailbox.org> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Maybe we need to ask for review of >>> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval at >the >>> same time as looking at the voting process documentation. If taken >>> literally, a PMC member who cannot do builds from source can't cast >a >>> +1 vote, because their vote is binding and a binding +1 requires a >>> build from source. >>>> >>>> Probably the ASF wants to guarantee that at least 3 PMC members are >>> developers (or development inclined)? >>> >>> It’s not probably. It *IS*! >>> >>>> >>>>> What I would like is to change it to require at least three PMC >>> members to declare they have done a build from source and tested the >>> result. Other PMC members could vote based on binary testing and >>> signature checking without building. >>>> >>>> Actually for a multi-platform software such as AOO it should be >>> required that building from source and testing the result was >carried >>> out by at least one voter (PMC member or not) for each of the >>> platforms/bit depths. >>>> If all three PMC members have success in building on e.g. Linux x64 >>> it does not provide any guarantee for the other platforms (as proven >by >>> 4.1.4 RC4) >>> >>> We had two PMC providing the community builds. The official release >is >>> the Source release. We need as much testing as possible of the >>> community releases. AOO is a unique project for Apache because our >>> users count on the community builds and not the source releases. >>> >>> I think we have grown in the last year because in the first years >here >>> at Apache most of the knowledge on how to build was in the minds of >the >>> former Hamburg team - Star, Sun, Oracle and then IBM employees. >>> >>> Special thanks to Matthias and Jim how providing the Community >Builds. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>> >>>> >>>> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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