Hi Thorsten, all,
Thorsten Behrens wrote:
Hi Martin, *,
this is in response to your blog post here:
http://blogs.sun.com/ratte/entry/openoffice_org_product_development
(I'll separately post a blog entry about this, but would prefer
discussion on this mailing list)
You wrote:
The only candidate now for the non-code contributing projects for the
next round of council elections will be Thorsten Behrens. he's a well
known great supporter of the hacker driven "Product Development", from
my perspective a good representative of the code contributors. But not
for the non-code contributing PD projects of OOo as the charter of the
CC states. It's difficult to do a "no" vote against the only candidate
for this seat, especially if the candidate does good things for the
project and I consider him as a good friend of mine. But we need a
general review of the PD part of the project, and therefore I want to
see a person representing the classical school of product development
and call for a no-vote and call for new candidates.
Martin,
so do you really think someone capable of working on the strategic
marketing plan will have _more_ time doing so when being a member of
the CC? ;)
More seriously, and as I wrote in my intro mail, I firmly believe
that CC's central function is arbitration - i.e. talking to people,
convincing folks, finding compromise. It's decidedly not the place to
vote people into, because you need specific jobs A, B, or C done -
that's what the different projects are for, for your example the
marketing project. My selling point is surely not decades of
marketing experience, but rather my ties into the wider community,
for which I know very many people in person, and would call quite a
few of them friends.
I jump here. In your first introduction, that was not obvious that you
will adopt this position of product dev representative. I for myself had
also this question in mind. I've been one very concerned by the fact
that nobody in the CC get the doc project or the QA project voices. For
some times, product dev was only core code, and even if it's very
important, that's not enough to deliver a good product. QA, is in the
middle, Doc, Marketing and l10n are very important neighbors. This is
the role of the product dev representative to give these projects a
strong voice in the overall project.
I've done QA work on CWS & sponsoring a tinderbox, I know a fair bit
about the economies & strategies in FLOSS communities - and I do my
legwork in advertising OOo, e.g. at CeBIT. As stated in my
introduction mail, I'm explicitely running for this seat representing
projects outside of raw code contribution in the council - in fact,
I've always frowned upon the notion of being purely "code
contributor", "qa engineer", or "marketer" - core to my motivation is
my love for this project, that is OOo, and everything that's
necessary to further its success. Across all camps.
I've been able to see how you love this project, no doubt on that.
I feel that currently there is a deep smog on our communication flow,
see Rene's feeling today, mine on l10n, others on lingu list, may be a
not so well balanced mail from Bjoern, whatever the great work he has
done and the not answered question from Volker about odficons01. I guess
we have some strange times to pass along. That should not disturb us
from what we have to do: keep the community strong, working in
confidence, attach importance to what really has, and forget the rest.
I'm happy to see both Eike and you being candidates to the CC.
Kind regards
Sophie
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