Hi Bjoern,
bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:10:54 +0200
Sophie <sgautier....@free.fr> wrote:
The unbalanced was between the mail and the disclaimer on the wiki.
Sorry that I didn't explain myself better adding confusion on
something I found important. (BTW I never read Eric Bachard mails
since almost 2 years or really by accident, this is irrelevant to my
eyes). Björn has done a very important work and we should be all
really thankfull to him. [you know there is always a but, here it
comes ;-) ] But, when I saw this warning at the top of the log of the
release minutes page [1], I thought of a contributor, where English
is really not his beloved language. He will go away asap and won't
contribute anymore once he has tried to read/understand this message.
This not the goal of the wiki to discourage contributions... I will
discuss this on the doc project when I have some time, but I wanted
to clarify my "not so balanced" assertion.
Well, I when adding the {{PageIgnoresWikiGuidelines}} template to a
page I take a look at the log. The creators of those pages mostly
english speakers and very involved in the project, so I could assure
they knew about the stuff going on with the wiki cleanup or knew where
to complain to.
For this page, yes.
However, the newcomers on the wiki are indeed a problematic case: We do
not want to scare them away, OTOH the cleanup showed me most of
"litter" that has piled up (incomplete page, no context, no links, no
category and sometimes nonenglish) was created by people
making their first, only and incomplete contribution. Such pages do
more harm than good because they mess up the Wiki and render the search
useless with meaningless results.
When editing content on the wiki, it has always been quite
clearly below the edit box: "Please note that all contributions to
OpenOffice.org Wiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other
contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly,
then do not submit it here."
One thing we might consider is to link from the contribution guidelines
to "Communication" and "IRC Communication" and ask people to get in
contact before editing.
I wanted to discuss this with you on the documentation list. A large
part of our contributors on the wiki are not English speakers but are
coming from the NLC. Most of the time, they absolutely do not speak
English, and are able to read very few words. So this is not only about
new comers we should direct to the good information to read before, but
also to add relevant links to where they should find help in their
language.
But I'll make a proposal on the doc@ list once I have a little time to
do so.
Kind regards
Sophie
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