Hi Sophie, Sophie wrote:
> I feel that currently there is a deep smog on our communication flow, > see Rene's feeling today, mine on l10n, others on lingu list, may be a > not so well balanced mail from Bjoern, whatever the great work he has > done and the not answered question from Volker about odficons01. I guess > we have some strange times to pass along. That should not disturb us > from what we have to do: keep the community strong, working in > confidence, attach importance to what really has, and forget the rest. Your last sentence really is a wise one and I thank you very much for it. But at the beginning of this paragraph you mixed very different things and put them together though they have completely different backgrounds. I don't know much about the things on l10n, linguistic and odficons, but my own experience from may years lets me think that they are the usual consequences of bad communication and mistakes on what side ever - just normal life that happens at times, not only currently. (Doesn't make it better, but also not an extraordinary event). The problems mentioned in the release status meeting are somewhat similar, though I dislike the reaction to them in the meeting. If people make mistakes, this shouldn't be brushed under the carpet. Nevertheless discussions about the mistakes should happen in a respectful manner and with an appropriate tone. So if you mention Rene's feeling in the meeting, what about the feelings of those being talked to so rudely as it is documented in the IRC logs of several meetings? Now to the other things that IMHO should be seen as something different. I don't think that Björn's mail was unbalanced. There is only one person (Eric Bachard) that obviously read it as a personal attack. As Eric is already known to take nearly everything personally, I wouldn't give that too much attention. And Björn and I have reacted immediately to Eric's mail (though it was quite impolite), just to make things clear. Moreover, all the work from Björn has been presented and discussed on the dev list upfront, nothing was done in secrecy. I can't see how we could have done that much better (perhaps except of adding a footer "This mail is not an attack against the education project or one of its members" to every mail sent to an OOo list). There will always be people who misunderstand even the most balanced mails you can think of. If you are looking for not so well balanced mails: take the reply from Eric to Björn (though IMHO naming it "not so well balanced" would be an euphemism). And Martin's blog? He has reasons not to vote for Thorsten and IMHO he is totally entitled to have them. He made them public to demonstrate that his "no" vote for Thorsten is not founded in personal problems with him, on the contrary: he doesn't want to give his vote to Thorsten in spite of the respect and sympathy he has for him in person. I can't see anything wrong here. Best regards, Mathias -- Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS Please don't reply to "nospamfor...@gmx.de". I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
