Well, it is not that I dont like it, I just dont see such a SPI once we
have qualifier feature or what it would bring. Do you have an example?

That said adding a service and extracting that code is not super costly but
semantically/design-ly not sure how to defend it yet.

Le mer. 8 mai 2019 à 20:41, Gerhard Petracek <gpetra...@apache.org> a
écrit :

> hi romain,
>
> it was just a hint - that there would be a chance to make owb even
> more plugable and maybe to refactor an existing spi to an even more
> useful spi.
> i'm fine with it, if you don't like to take such a chance. the overall
> use-case isn't that important to start a long/er discussion.
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> Am Mo., 6. Mai 2019 um 23:24 Uhr schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Le lun. 6 mai 2019 à 22:51, Gerhard Petracek <gpetra...@apache.org> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > my point was just to add a spi similar to the resource-injection spi...
> > > or maybe we can even unify the spi for all types of injections.
> > >
> >
> > Using qualifier - even through extensions - it does then so maybe we csn
> > drop spi
> >
> >
> > > regards,
> > > gerhard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am Mo., 6. Mai 2019 um 20:43 Uhr schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > <rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > Well im happy with the spi option but since it would be in impl not
> sure
> > > we
> > > > need to slow down the boot instead of hardcoding it. Or did you mean
> in
> > > > term of codepath but still bypassing service loader?
> > > >
> > > > Side note: we should align reflection on xbean which supports meta
> > > > annotation and potentially aliasing, this is a bug between scanning
> and
> > > > runtime model we have today - see @Meta or @Metaroot support in
> xbean.
> > > That
> > > > said it is another topic ;).
> > > >
> > > > Le lun. 6 mai 2019 à 15:45, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid>
> a
> > > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > Hmm, nah, too memory intense and slower than the other solution I'd
> > > say.
> > > > >
> > > > > LieGrue,
> > > > > strub
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Am 06.05.2019 um 14:41 schrieb Arne Limburg <
> > > > > arne.limb...@openknowledge.de>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmm,
> > > > > > thinking more of it:
> > > > > > Shouldn't it be just an Extension that adds an @Inject
> Annotation to
> > > > > every Field and Method parameter that has a qualifier?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Arne
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Am 06.05.19, 14:06 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" <
> gpetra...@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    hi romain,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    some years ago i tried to do something similar (afair with owb
> > > 1.0.x)
> > > > > >    based on our plugin-spi.
> > > > > >    back then it was just possible via a plugin for
> resource-injection
> > > > > >    (and it was a bit "tricky").
> > > > > >    if nothing changed in the meantime, we should take the chance
> to
> > > add a
> > > > > >    more powerful injection-spi (to allow multiple plugins which
> can
> > > > > >    participate in the "injection-lifecycle").
> > > > > >    -> your approach would be one of many plugins users can add
> (e.g.
> > > with
> > > > > >    auto. activation...).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    regards,
> > > > > >    gerhard
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Am So., 5. Mai 2019 um 22:09 Uhr schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > >    <rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Good catch!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If no objection i can push a first version like on friday I
> think.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Le dim. 5 mai 2019 à 21:58, Mark Struberg
> <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid>
> > > a
> > > > > >> écrit :
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> And NO @Produces....
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> LieGrue,
> > > > > >>> Strub
> > > > > >>>
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> > > > > >>>> am fine with that. I even thought of that before, when I
> wanted
> > > to add
> > > > > >>> @PersistenceContext as qualifier to implement injection of
> > > > > EntityManager by
> > > > > >>> myself in a pure CDI-Scenario.
> > > > > >>>>
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> > > > > >>>> Am 05.05.19, 19:39 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> > > > > rmannibu...@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>> :
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>   Hi guys,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>   Quarkus makes @Inject optional for MP qualifiers, can we
> add a
> > > flag
> > > > > >>> to get
> > > > > >>>>   it? I.e. injection point is defined if inject is there or
> there
> > > is a
> > > > > >>>>   qualifier (even without inject)?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>   It can probably be extended to delegate too - but less
> common.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>   Guess it can be on by default but fine if you prefer it off
> too
> > > to
> > > > > >>>>   encourage portability.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>   Wdyt?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>

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