+1 regards, gerhard
Am Do., 9. Mai 2019 um 22:23 Uhr schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > Hi Arne, > > No because constructors are just marked with inject, not constructor > injections (1 vs N). > > I can do it tomorrow - will try the spi thing too. Just thought it was not > impacting as much dev - I rarely use it cause of proxying requirements so > can be biased. > > Just let me know you want it and Ill do it for you with pleasure. > > Le jeu. 9 mai 2019 à 21:53, Arne Limburg <arne.limb...@openknowledge.de> a > écrit : > > > Hi Romain, > > > > Did not take a look at it for now, just read the JIRA issue and wondered, > > what about constructors. Did you implement anything regarding constructors > > such that when a constructor with a parameter with a qualifier exists, that > > constructor is taken instead of the default constructor? > > > > Cheers, > > Arne > > > > -- > > Arne Limburg – Enterprise Architect > > > > > > > > OPEN KNOWLEDGE GmbH > > Poststraße 1, 26122 Oldenburg > > Mobil: +49 151 - 108 22 942 > > Tel: +49 441 - 4082-154 > > Fax: +49 441 - 4082-111 > > arne.limb...@openknowledge.de > > www.openknowledge.de > > > > Registergericht: Amtsgericht Oldenburg, HRB 4670 > > Geschäftsführer: Lars Röwekamp, Jens Schumann > > > > Nächste Konferenz: > > > > Java Forum Nord | Hannover | 24. September 2019 > > > > Nächste Akademie: > > > > API, Microservices & DDD Summit | München | 17. - 19. Juni 2019 > > > > Treffen Sie uns auf weiteren Konferenzen, > > Summits und Events: > > > > Zu unseren weiteren Events > > > > > > > > Am 09.05.19, 18:55 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > pushed a patch about it - > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OWB-1287 > > > > you can see it is very trivial > > > > I have a few open points about it: > > > > 1. (For Gerhard) do you want a service for that? How would you > > generalize > > it? > > 2. I disabled the feature in impl and tck modules cause a few tests > > were > > failing - I only activated it in the test about that particular > > feature. In > > impl it is a bit of work but we can reverse the setup - ie on by > > default. > > In TCK it is not hard since a single test fails but it requires to > > setup an > > arquillian extension to customize - enrich - the owb configuration for > > that > > test. Not sure how we stand about it and if we care much but this is a > > small detail which can be surprising when seen. > > 3. (likely for Mark) I pushed it on svn, is git already ready? Didn't > > see > > it. > > > > Don't hesitate to give some feedback about it. > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < > > https://github.com/rmannibucau> | > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book > > < > > https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance > > > > > > > > > Le mer. 8 mai 2019 à 20:52, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > > a > > écrit : > > > > > Well, it is not that I dont like it, I just dont see such a SPI once > > we > > > have qualifier feature or what it would bring. Do you have an > > example? > > > > > > That said adding a service and extracting that code is not super > > costly > > > but semantically/design-ly not sure how to defend it yet. > > > > > > Le mer. 8 mai 2019 à 20:41, Gerhard Petracek <gpetra...@apache.org> > > a > > > écrit : > > > > > >> hi romain, > > >> > > >> it was just a hint - that there would be a chance to make owb even > > >> more plugable and maybe to refactor an existing spi to an even more > > >> useful spi. > > >> i'm fine with it, if you don't like to take such a chance. the > > overall > > >> use-case isn't that important to start a long/er discussion. > > >> > > >> regards, > > >> gerhard > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Am Mo., 6. Mai 2019 um 23:24 Uhr schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau > > >> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > >> > > > >> > Le lun. 6 mai 2019 à 22:51, Gerhard Petracek < > > gpetra...@apache.org> a > > >> > écrit : > > >> > > > >> > > my point was just to add a spi similar to the resource-injection > > >> spi... > > >> > > or maybe we can even unify the spi for all types of injections. > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > Using qualifier - even through extensions - it does then so maybe > > we csn > > >> > drop spi > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > regards, > > >> > > gerhard > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Am Mo., 6. Mai 2019 um 20:43 Uhr schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau > > >> > > <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Well im happy with the spi option but since it would be in > > impl not > > >> sure > > >> > > we > > >> > > > need to slow down the boot instead of hardcoding it. Or did > > you > > >> mean in > > >> > > > term of codepath but still bypassing service loader? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Side note: we should align reflection on xbean which supports > > meta > > >> > > > annotation and potentially aliasing, this is a bug between > > scanning > > >> and > > >> > > > runtime model we have today - see @Meta or @Metaroot support > > in > > >> xbean. > > >> > > That > > >> > > > said it is another topic ;). > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Le lun. 6 mai 2019 à 15:45, Mark Struberg > > <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid> > > >> a > > >> > > > écrit : > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hmm, nah, too memory intense and slower than the other > > solution > > >> I'd > > >> > > say. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > LieGrue, > > >> > > > > strub > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Am 06.05.2019 um 14:41 schrieb Arne Limburg < > > >> > > > > arne.limb...@openknowledge.de>: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hmm, > > >> > > > > > thinking more of it: > > >> > > > > > Shouldn't it be just an Extension that adds an @Inject > > >> Annotation to > > >> > > > > every Field and Method parameter that has a qualifier? > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Cheers, > > >> > > > > > Arne > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > Arne Limburg – Enterprise Architect > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > OPEN KNOWLEDGE GmbH > > >> > > > > > Poststraße 1, 26122 Oldenburg > > >> > > > > > Mobil: +49 151 - 108 22 942 > > >> > > > > > Tel: +49 441 - 4082-154 > > >> > > > > > Fax: +49 441 - 4082-111 > > >> > > > > > arne.limb...@openknowledge.de > > >> > > > > > www.openknowledge.de > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Registergericht: Amtsgericht Oldenburg, HRB 4670 > > >> > > > > > Geschäftsführer: Lars Röwekamp, Jens Schumann > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Nächste Konferenz: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Java Forum Nord | Hannover | 24. September 2019 > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Nächste Akademie: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > API, Microservices & DDD Summit | München | 17. - 19. > > Juni 2019 > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Treffen Sie uns auf weiteren Konferenzen, > > >> > > > > > Summits und Events: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Zu unseren weiteren Events > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Am 06.05.19, 14:06 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" < > > >> gpetra...@apache.org > > >> > > >: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > hi romain, > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > some years ago i tried to do something similar (afair > > with > > >> owb > > >> > > 1.0.x) > > >> > > > > > based on our plugin-spi. > > >> > > > > > back then it was just possible via a plugin for > > >> resource-injection > > >> > > > > > (and it was a bit "tricky"). > > >> > > > > > if nothing changed in the meantime, we should take the > > >> chance to > > >> > > add a > > >> > > > > > more powerful injection-spi (to allow multiple plugins > > which > > >> can > > >> > > > > > participate in the "injection-lifecycle"). > > >> > > > > > -> your approach would be one of many plugins users > > can add > > >> (e.g. > > >> > > with > > >> > > > > > auto. activation...). > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > regards, > > >> > > > > > gerhard > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Am So., 5. Mai 2019 um 22:09 Uhr schrieb Romain > > Manni-Bucau > > >> > > > > > <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> Good catch! > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> If no objection i can push a first version like on > > friday I > > >> think. > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> Le dim. 5 mai 2019 à 21:58, Mark Struberg > > >> <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid> > > >> > > a > > >> > > > > >> écrit : > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >>> And NO @Produces.... > > >> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >>> LieGrue, > > >> > > > > >>> Strub > > >> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Am 05.05.2019 um 20:07 schrieb Arne Limburg < > > >> > > > > >>> arne.limb...@openknowledge.de>: > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> I > > >> > > > > >>>> OPEN KNOWLEDGE GmbH > > >> > > > > >>>> Poststraße 1, 26122 Oldenburg > > >> > > > > >>>> Mobil: +49 151 - 108 22 942 > > >> > > > > >>>> Tel: +49 441 - 4082-154 > > >> > > > > >>>> Fax: +49 441 - 4082-111 > > >> > > > > >>>> arne.limb...@openknowledge.de > > >> > > > > >>>> www.openknowledge.de > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Oldenburg, HRB 4670 > > >> > > > > >>>> Geschäftsführer: Lars Röwekamp, Jens Schumann > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Nächste Konferenz: > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Jax | Mainz | 6. - 10. Mai 2019 > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Nächste Akademie: > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> API, Microservices & DDD Summit | München | 17. - 19. > > Juni > > >> 2019 > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Treffen Sie uns auf weiteren Konferenzen, > > >> > > > > >>>> Summits und Events: > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Zu unseren weiteren Events > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> am fine with that. I even thought of that before, when > > I > > >> wanted > > >> > > to add > > >> > > > > >>> @PersistenceContext as qualifier to implement injection > > of > > >> > > > > EntityManager by > > >> > > > > >>> myself in a pure CDI-Scenario. > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Cheers, > > >> > > > > >>>> Arne > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> -- > > >> > > > > >>>> Arne Limburg – Enterprise Architect > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Am 05.05.19, 19:39 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" < > > >> > > > > rmannibu...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > >>>> : > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Hi guys, > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Quarkus makes @Inject optional for MP qualifiers, > > can we > > >> add a > > >> > > flag > > >> > > > > >>> to get > > >> > > > > >>>> it? I.e. injection point is defined if inject is > > there or > > >> there > > >> > > is a > > >> > > > > >>>> qualifier (even without inject)? > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> It can probably be extended to delegate too - but > > less > > >> common. > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Guess it can be on by default but fine if you prefer > > it > > >> off too > > >> > > to > > >> > > > > >>>> encourage portability. > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> Wdyt? > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >