Yes, we are currently working on fixing the 4.x branch test flappers while
waiting for the PHOENIX-5435. After that, I will try to have an RC ASAP.

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 3:29 PM Ankit Singhal <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I see that both the blockers listed here PHOENIX-5712 and PHOENIX-6241
> have been resolved(Thanks to Xinyi), and also as per the JIRA query there
> is no Jira marked as a blocker for 4.16 except the one related to
> documentation
> for "splittable catalog table".
>
> Xinyi, so are we good to start the release process now?
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 9:32 PM Xinyi Yan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for replying and providing suggestions. I looked at the wrong
> result
> > Jira list that Daniel provided and did some local testing, and here is
> the
> > result:
> > [resolved] PHOENIX-4116, PHOENIX-4419, and PHOENIX-4642: cannot reproduce
> > it.
> > [More information is required] PHOENIX-4504 cannot reproduce it but
> someone
> > claimed that he had a similar issue.
> > [unusual query] PHOENIX-4540 and PHOENIX-6217
> >
> > Based on my finding, I think it's better to have more frequent
> housekeeping
> > and resolve unreproducible bugs especially since many of them are
> > considering out of date (phoenix-4.11 or even phoenix-4.6). Since I still
> > need time to work on the blocker Jira(PHOENIX-5712, PHOENIX-6241) and fix
> > test flappers, if you want to fix "unusual query" bugs, feel free to do
> so.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Xinyi
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:41 AM Ankit Singhal <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Daniel and appreciate the effort you put in getting the list
> ready
> > > for bugs producing wrong results
> > > but none of them seems to be a blocker to me for 4.16 as they are not
> the
> > > regression and doesn't break the general functionality
> > > except for specific features, RVC/desc as Chenglei also pointed out
> > (though
> > > I'll defer the assessment to RM "Xinyi").
> > > Probably these can be a part of 4.16.1 or we can do 4.17.0 soon maybe
> > after
> > > a few weeks/month?
> > >
> > > Considering that we have already fixed 137 bugs and done 85+
> > > improvements/features in 4.16,
> > > it will not be a good idea to deprive the user from such fixes.
> > > It's been a year since our last 4.15 release, having no release brings
> > more
> > > questions on the project
> > > rather than the bugs which affect a certain % of feature/users, would
> the
> > > release notes
> > > explaining the stability of certain features set the right expectation
> > for
> > > those users who rely on these features to wait for a future release?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ankit Singhal
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 8:21 PM [email protected] <
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In my opinion, we should  keep releases light and frequent, and for
> > some
> > > > unusual query bugs like RVC and DESC
> > > > we could delay fix to next release . I think we should release 4.16.0
> > and
> > > > 5.1.0 as quickly as possible. In China, many users
> > > > in HBase&Phoenix User Group thought that  Phoenix was dead because
> our
> > > too
> > > > long interval release and stopped using
> > > > Phoenix.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 2020-12-02 08:45:46, "Chinmay Kulkarni" <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >I agree. These are all major bugs and we should aim at solving them
> > > after
> > > > >checking that they are still issues. I am +1 on 5833 and I think
> 5484
> > > > would
> > > > >be a great addition to 4.16 as well. We should aim at resolving high
> > > > >priority bugs like this in every release.
> > > > >
> > > > >Sometimes we let these bugs slip without a resolution before a
> > release,
> > > > >citing that these are "known issues" or "not regressions from the
> last
> > > > >release". In some cases this may be fine since we want to keep
> > releases
> > > > >light and frequent, but perhaps we can track such issues and aim at
> > > > >reducing the number of bugs by x% in each release? This will also
> keep
> > > old
> > > > >Jiras alive since we will potentially periodically review them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 4:01 PM Geoffrey Jacoby <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I've got PHOENIX-5435 in review right now, and would like to get
> it
> > in
> > > > 4.16
> > > > >> / 5.1.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's allowing the annotation of Phoenix metadata into HBase WALs
> as
> > a
> > > > >> pre-req for the Phoenix Change Detection Capture framework
> > > > (PHOENIX-5442).
> > > > >> Since it has both client/server logic, and adds a field to
> > > > System.Catalog,
> > > > >> it can't go in a patch release.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Depending on timing, I'd _like_ to get PHOENIX-6227, which is the
> > last
> > > > part
> > > > >> of CDC that will go into core Phoenix, into 4.16, but since that
> > _can_
> > > > go
> > > > >> in a patch release and I haven't started it yet, if the release
> gets
> > > cut
> > > > >> before it's ready, no big deal. (The rest of CDC will go into
> > > > >> phoenix-connectors for a future release of that project.)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As for the correctness problems that Daniel points out, I think we
> > > > should
> > > > >> fix the ones that were detected with a recent version (4.14 or
> > 4.15?),
> > > > and
> > > > >> test to see which of the older ones can still be reproduced. Once
> we
> > > > know
> > > > >> which bugs are real and which are just historical, we can better
> > judge
> > > > >> scope. And hopefully close a bunch of obsolete bugs. (Thanks,
> > Daniel,
> > > > for
> > > > >> collecting that list!)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Geoffrey
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:33 PM Daniel Wong
> > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Hi, I wanted to bring up wrong results in Phoenix and some JIRAs
> > > > around
> > > > >> > them that I think we should fix as the wrong result lessens the
> > end
> > > > >> user's
> > > > >> > trust in Phoenix.  Releasing a new version without addressing
> > these
> > > > in a
> > > > >> > minor release hurts our visibility in that these critical issues
> > are
> > > > not
> > > > >> > addressed.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Jira's that I'm involved with for example: I've already given a
> > > patch
> > > > >> > several months ago for 5833 and there is a chance it may fix
> 5484.
> > > > >> >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-5833
> > > > >> >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-5484
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > In addition, inspecting apache JIRA i see several other wrong
> > result
> > > > >> JIRAs
> > > > >> > from the community.  Some of these certainly are probably old
> > issues
> > > > or
> > > > >> > incorrect understanding but some of these are opened by our own
> > dev
> > > > >> > community and are likely real problems.
> > > > >> >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-6217
> > > > >> >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-5571
> > > > >> >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-4642
> > > > >> >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-4540
> > > > >> >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-4504
> > > > >> >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-4419
> > > > >> >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-4116
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > What is our stance on this type of issue?  Are we going to say
> > these
> > > > were
> > > > >> > issues prior to 4.15 and not address them?  Should we have
> > > > requirements
> > > > >> for
> > > > >> > our releases to fix wrong results?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Daniel Wong
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 7:30 PM Xinyi Yan <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Hi all,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > It's time to discuss the Phoenix 4.16 release. After many
> > people's
> > > > >> > > contributions on the bug fixes, new features, and other works
> in
> > > the
> > > > >> past
> > > > >> > > few months, we are kind of close to the point to have a RC
> > (still
> > > > need
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > > fix test flappers). Please let me know if you think any JIRA
> > must
> > > be
> > > > >> part
> > > > >> > > of the Phoenix 4.16 release other than major blocker
> > PHOENIX-5712.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > If no surprise comes up, I will not wait for any new major
> > > features
> > > > and
> > > > >> > > focus on the RC as soon as possible.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Sincerely,
> > > > >> > > Xinyi
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > Daniel Wong
> > > > >> > Salesforce
> > > > >> > Mobile: 628.217.1808
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Chinmay Kulkarni
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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