I agree. I think we'll see a massive uptick in contributors to Piggybank if it is on github. I think we can start getting companies like Twitter and LinkedIn to think about contributing to Piggybank instead of rolling their own github repos.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales < g...@apache.org> wrote: > As I said, the integration is still cumbersome. > There are legal issues with not uploading patches to Jira. > > Anyway, +1 for moving Piggybank to git (github could be a good choice in > this case). > > Cheers, > -- > Gianmarco > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 06:48, Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > No, that is not good :( > > > > Weekday for the hackathon? > > > > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to > > > upload patches to JIRA? > > > > > > D > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney < > russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible. > > >> > > >> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > >> > > >> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jcove...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend? > > >>> > > >>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > >>> > > >>>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be > > moving > > >>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things). > > >>>> > > >>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> > > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Alan. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254 > > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra > > >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but > do > > >>>>> agree > > >>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot > > the > > >>>>> date? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey < > > sc...@richrelevance.com > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging > > >>>> patches > > >>>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support > Linus > > >>>> plans > > >>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One > > disadvantage > > >>>>> is > > >>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading > the > > >>>>> patch > > >>>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes > > after > > >>>>> only > > >>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn > > >>>> patch' > > >>>>> is > > >>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned > > >>>> support > > >>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between > > the > > >>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. > > >>>> Subversion > > >>>>> is > > >>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working > > locally, > > >>>> for > > >>>>>>> example. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dvrya...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney > > >>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be > > >>>> using... > > >>>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out > > text > > >>>>>>>>> patches? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey > > >>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git > and > > >>>>> upload > > >>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'. > > >>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch? > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out > > with > > >>>>>>>>>> svn, > > >>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" < > > >>>>> g...@apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they > > have > > >>>>> git) > > >>>>>>>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >>>>>>>>>>> but later. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully > > integrated > > >>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn. > > >>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then > > switch > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>> svn > > >>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent > > in my > > >>>>>>>>>> humble > > >>>>>>>>>>> opinion. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy < > > dvrya...@gmail.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If > we > > >>>>>>>>>> committed > > >>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate > > oversight. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. > That's > > a > > >>>>>>>>>> github > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) > > feature. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review > > prior > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or > Jira > > >>>>>>>>>>>> integration. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney > > >>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. > Not > > a > > >>>>>>>>>>>> problem. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. > > >>>>>>>>>> Works the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> same. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey > > >>>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA > > >>>>>>>>>> requires > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull > > request > > >>>>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>>>> github > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here > are > > >>>>>>>>>> experts. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" < > > russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would > > benefit > > >>>>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests > on > > >>>>>>>>>> github. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. > > Barrier > > >>>>>>>>>> of > > >>>>>>>>>>>> entry > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy > for > > >>>> all. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai > > >>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is > an > > >>>>>>>>>> urgent > > >>>>>>>>>>>> need > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the > > >>>> process > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the > first > > >>>>>>>>>> several > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney < > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jcove...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have > > to > > >>>>>>>>>> learn > > >>>>>>>>>>>> one > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. > It > > >>>>>>>>>> might as > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the > > primary > > >>>>>>>>>> repo > > >>>>>>>>>>>> using > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to > > volunteer > > >>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>> join > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the > > >>>> apache > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" > > >>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy > > >>>>>>>>>> <dvrya...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do > the > > >>>> work. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project > > that > > >>>>>>>>>> uses > > >>>>>>>>>>>> git? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <billgra...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire > > >>>> discussion > > >>>>>>>>>> tree > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some > incubator > > >>>>>>>>>> projects > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. > > >>>> Looking > > >>>>>>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <ga...@hortonworks.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a > > primary > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this > > has > > >>>>>>>>>> changed > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I > don't > > >>>> care > > >>>>>>>>>>>> which > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney > > wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think > > you > > >>>> can > > >>>>>>>>>>>> apply > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the > > first > > >>>>>>>>>> class > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work > > with > > >>>>>>>>>> pig > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied > > about > > >>>>>>>>>> on > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed > > seriously > > >>>>>>>>>> on the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email > > address. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgra...@gmail.com going forward.* > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney > > russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney > russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>>> datasyndrome.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>> datasyndrome.com > > >>>> > > > -- Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
